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11-17-2014, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by spindrift
Neither...Bilstein wins hands down.
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Originally Posted by johnboytoo
Just like oil... it's all personal opinion...
I like the rancho 9000's - adjustable and lifetime warranty IIRC - cuz I've never had to use it
but have had them on 2 Excursions and 2 Superduties...
set them on 1 for soft cushy rider up to 9 for firm tight ride... I usually have them about 2 or 3 unloaded and 8 in the rear towing the rw...
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Aahh, a Excursion fan. My son and I both have 2000 models. Love those rides!
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2015 39mb with all the goodies
2014 F 350 platinum dullay
Six year old aussie shepard (Remy)
Semi retired, looking for somewhere to go
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11-17-2014, 03:06 PM
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Bilstein 5100
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Cindy and Tom, Toby and Kasey (our Berner and Newfie)
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11-17-2014, 05:43 PM
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Back to the OP:
We had a Heartland Big Horn for four years and were quite happy with it.
We went with a new RW 36FB because of the storage space accessible to my shortened wife. After eight back surgeries, she was tired of using a step stool or step ladder to access the cabinets. The Redwood met all of her requirements.
It turns out that the 36FB is close to the same bedroom layout as our last two RVs. The slide in a slide feature provides additional space.
The DW liked that the windows on the RW were not boxed in with valances. We were forever hitting the BH plastic clips and breaking them.
Most of the complaints on the Heartland sites have to do with tires and axles. It is my impression that the toy haulers have the biggest problems. The Chinese tires appear to be more susceptible to blowouts. However, it may be that toy hauler carry more weight and go down dirt roads more.
The Landmarks are the top of the line and appear to have higher quality of construction than some of the other lines. Maybe, because they are more expensive, fewer of them are built, therefore, fewer problems.
My wife and I are expecting our new RW to be built in December. It was an unplanned purchase at the Detroit RV show in October. The wife just really liked the RW.
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11-17-2014, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TnB
Back to the OP:
We had a Heartland Big Horn for four years and were quite happy with it.
We went with a new RW 36FB because of the storage space accessible to my shortened wife. After eight back surgeries, she was tired of using a step stool or step ladder to access the cabinets. The Redwood met all of her requirements.
It turns out that the 36FB is close to the same bedroom layout as our last two RVs. The slide in a slide feature provides additional space.
The DW liked that the windows on the RW were not boxed in with valances. We were forever hitting the BH plastic clips and breaking them.
Most of the complaints on the Heartland sites have to do with tires and axles. It is my impression that the toy haulers have the biggest problems. The Chinese tires appear to be more susceptible to blowouts. However, it may be that toy hauler carry more weight and go down dirt roads more.
The Landmarks are the top of the line and appear to have higher quality of construction than some of the other lines. Maybe, because they are more expensive, fewer of them are built, therefore, fewer problems.
My wife and I are expecting our new RW to be built in December. It was an unplanned purchase at the Detroit RV show in October. The wife just really liked the RW.
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We love our RW!
Did lots of shopping and price was not an issue on selection. Chose RW because it just felt right.
It is a shame that they cut the fat on tires and axles, but I suppose that is up to customer and how he plans to use it. Most rv buyers never wear the smell off the tires while some of us never let them cool. I picked mine up 26 aug 14 and have put over7500 miles on.
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2015 39mb with all the goodies
2014 F 350 platinum dullay
Six year old aussie shepard (Remy)
Semi retired, looking for somewhere to go
Hard to stay home with this much stuff
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11-17-2014, 07:03 PM
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So MSRP speaking, is Redwood or Landmark considered higher priced?
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11-17-2014, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lwg
So MSRP speaking, is Redwood or Landmark considered higher priced?
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Probably apples for apples, who knows with msrp. The base could be less on one, but options higher. I think it all comes down to dealer and your own comfort zone. Usually 30% off msrp is a good buying price....but then there is trade difference, financing, addons so on . Wished there was a magic formula to figure on.
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2015 39mb with all the goodies
2014 F 350 platinum dullay
Six year old aussie shepard (Remy)
Semi retired, looking for somewhere to go
Hard to stay home with this much stuff
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11-17-2014, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by redwoodin with remy
Probably apples for apples, who knows with msrp. The base could be less on one, but options higher. I think it all comes down to dealer and your own comfort zone. Usually 30% off msrp is a good buying price....but then there is trade difference, financing, addons so on . Wished there was a magic formula to figure on.
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It is funny how the RV industry works. Would be interesting to know on average what percentage of the real MSRP is considered costs. I know they've got to make a profit but have always wondered exactly how much they make before they take out their overhead, etc.
I keep thinking that things might slowly evolve to have some of the information you have in the auto industry, but suspect we're 10-20 years away from that at this point.
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11-17-2014, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lwg
It is funny how the RV industry works. Would be interesting to know on average what percentage of the real MSRP is considered costs. I know they've got to make a profit but have always wondered exactly how much they make before they take out their overhead, etc.
I keep thinking that things might slowly evolve to have some of the information you have in the auto industry, but suspect we're 10-20 years away from that at this point.
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Yea, we dealed on 6 different units at 6 different dealers in a 200 mile radius. No rhythm to the numbers. The RW was the highest msrp but the more reasonable trade difference.
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2015 39mb with all the goodies
2014 F 350 platinum dullay
Six year old aussie shepard (Remy)
Semi retired, looking for somewhere to go
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11-17-2014, 11:19 PM
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[QUOTE=Dave&Ginny;39872] New Horizons or Continental Coach intrigue me. A lot more money but still less investment than a diesel pusher with even better quality.
I checked those units out last night all I have to say is WOW...glad I didn't see them when we were shopping. Surpasses any interior of a Class A and the space is incredible. We like the Front living room, if they have that maybe our last 5th wheel will be one of those. All Steve has ever wanted was a Diesel pusher, our Class A was a gasser and for our first A it was what suited us at the time. I started out tenting then moved up to a pop up to a 28 ft.1963 Airstream (wish I didn't sell that) to the Class A and now the Redwood.I have to say I love the Redwood.... I also have to say we don't camp we have a rolling penthouse
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11-17-2014, 11:47 PM
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[QUOTE=Char & Steve;40016]
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Originally Posted by Dave&Ginny
New Horizons or Continental Coach intrigue me. A lot more money but still less investment than a diesel pusher with even better quality.
I checked those units out last night all I have to say is WOW...glad I didn't see them when we were shopping. Surpasses any interior of a Class A and the space is incredible. We like the Front living room, if they have that maybe our last 5th wheel will be one of those. All Steve has ever wanted was a Diesel pusher, our Class A was a gasser and for our first A it was what suited us at the time. I started out tenting then moved up to a pop up to a 28 ft.1963 Airstream (wish I didn't sell that) to the Class A and now the Redwood.I have to say I love the Redwood.... I also have to say we don't camp we have a rolling penthouse
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Char, it all boils down to dollars and cents. My wife and I are like you and Steve. We love camping and have done it most of my life with everything from toppers on back of trucks, 55 silver streak and many more. We met camping when we were 13 years old and now have been married for over 36 years.
We like quality and if I have to spend an extra 80 k to get it ....then we will. We've looked at and toured a couple of different diesel pusher factories and last fall almost signed the papers. We'll have to wait to see where we go from here.
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11-18-2014, 12:01 AM
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Dave,
We never expected when we walked into the fifth wheel we'd ever own one. We were on vacation and it was raining the whole first week so with nothing else to do we looked at Rv's. We've looked at a lot of Diesel pusher over the last few years and were very sure that was our next buy but with the cost closer to The two's we needed to really be sure what model we wanted. Well RW changed that for now.... Honestly I always thought growing up the fifth wheel was not the same caliber as the Class A's were we ever wrong.
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11-18-2014, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Char & Steve
Dave,
We never expected when we walked into the fifth wheel we'd ever own one. We were on vacation and it was raining the whole first week so with nothing else to do we looked at Rv's. We've looked at a lot of Diesel pusher over the last few years and were very sure that was our next buy but with the cost closer to The two's we needed to really be sure what model we wanted. Well RW changed that for now.... Honestly I always thought growing up the fifth wheel was not the same caliber as the Class A's were we ever wrong.
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The 5th wheels have come a long way over the years. Some may argue with me but I think in a diesel pusher you have to spend close to the 300K to get some of the better quality and even then you have to be careful. I like the Foretravel, Entegra and Newmar. I came VERY close to buying a new 45' Allegro Bus last fall.
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11-18-2014, 12:27 AM
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We would spend that also but if we could get one a few years old we wouldn't be taking the biggest hit on it. We like the Newmar and the Tour the Country coach and the list goes on. I have to say though coming from a Class A for the past 8 years no matter what the lay out your always in the same room. With the Front living room it's like you have 4 different spaces. Traveling with the pups I need a get away space lol..
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11-18-2014, 01:22 PM
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Ok so redwood took away the 2 plus 5 huge mistake I need my eyes but landmark said sure the honor the 2 plus five
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11-18-2014, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Char & Steve
We would spend that also but if we could get one a few years old we wouldn't be taking the biggest hit on it. We like the Newmar and the Tour the Country coach and the list goes on. I have to say though coming from a Class A for the past 8 years no matter what the lay out your always in the same room. With the Front living room it's like you have 4 different spaces. Traveling with the pups I need a get away space lol..
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Char you're right! If you sit still for long periods of time the 5th wheel is best but if you're on the move a lot then the motor home comes into play. Either way the 5th wheel feels more homey.
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11-18-2014, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DLRAKOWITZ
Ok so redwood took away the 2 plus 5 huge mistake I need my eyes but landmark said sure the honor the 2 plus five
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From an image stand point, I think Redwood made a mistake there but they know more about the business side of the RV than I do.
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