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03-07-2017, 01:53 AM
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Towing questions
We have owned our 2012 redwood 36fl for about 2 years. It was delivered by our dealer and we haven't ever towed it. We have a redwood 36fl, and we're assured that our 2006 dodge ram 2500 4wd diesel would be enough to pull our 5th wheel easy.. Anybody else have any advice regarding this.
Also, we would like to know if any of you have had issues with tires blowing out. Our tires are the original.
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03-07-2017, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MMoulton
We have owned our 2012 redwood 36fl for about 2 years. It was delivered by our dealer and we haven't ever towed it. We have a 2006 redwood 36fl, and we're assured that our 2006 dodge ram 2500 4wd diesel would be enough to pull our 5th wheel easy.. Anybody else have any advice regarding this.
Also, we would like to know if any of you have had issues with tires blowing out. Our tires are the original.
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First off the 2500 CAN tow your unit BUT I would only tow a VERY short distance where there are now hills.
Second tires over 5 years are marginal, side walls rot out and alot of time from the inside
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03-07-2017, 02:20 AM
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I'm not going to get into the truck wars since many have different opinions on this site but if you have the original tires and especially if they are the Marathons, I would replace them asap. You will find many threads on this site about both your questions if you do a search.
We also have an FL.
Steve
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Retired 2014 Redwood 36FL and 2015 GMC Denali 3500 DW Duramax but Now a 2020 Tiffin Allegro Bus with a 2022 GMC Canyon Denali toad.
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03-07-2017, 04:20 AM
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Assured by a salesman? That says it all if that's the case. Most don't know how the equipment their selling works let alone what it takes to tow it.
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Danny & Linda
Full-timed 10+ years
Former '13 FB owner
Traded '13 GMC Denali DRW D/A
Currently rv & truckless
Replacement undetermined
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03-07-2017, 03:02 PM
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Do your own research, don't let a salesman tell you what will work. I found even the truck salesman has no clue! As for tire blowouts, I had 2 Marathons with only approximately 6000 miles on them blow within 30 miles of each other. They were 4 years old and looked like new! $5000 damage. Get new tires and upgrade to "G"s or "H"s!
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Rick and Mindy
Retired
2013 Redwood 31SL, 2011 Ford F350 SRW, 6.7, Crew Cab with Firestone Bags, Titan Disc Brakes
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03-07-2017, 03:33 PM
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1st thing is definitely get new tires as said above minimum G rated.
Yes your truck will tow it but if you check your pin weight you will find it will overload your rear and tires.
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2015 36RL pushing a 2015 Denali
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03-07-2017, 06:00 PM
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I don't know the weight differences between the FL and RL like we have, but one thing an owner should do is weigh the rig as you will be towing it down the road, with propane, water if you choose, and all our "stuff", to see where your weight is. One of our members, Ron Russell has posted some valuable information on this website about the various tire weight capacities, and some have found that the G series tires are around 80-90% of their capacity, while most of our vehicle tires are much less than that. Search for his posts (his name on here is Titan Guy) for specific different tire capacities, compare it to your coach's weight and use that to decide, not some salesman who may not be well informed. We had Goodyear G614 tires on ours for the first couple of years, but after reading information on here, opted to purchase four new wheels and H rated 17.5 Goodyear tires from Ron, and I'm so relieved not to have to worry about tire safety anymore.
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Jim & Mary 2013 36 RL with Titan Disc Brakes Residential Fridge Goodyear 17.5 H rated tires MORryde IS, MORryde pin box 2015 Ford F350 King Ranch DRW
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03-08-2017, 05:16 AM
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The FL has one of the lightest pin weights of the entire fleet. You may be OK with the 2500.
Those tires are time bombs if they are original. 2012, all they had were Marathon.
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Brad & Dory - Lone Tree, CO
CURRENT - 2013 Itasca Meridian 42E/2013 Wrangler 4dr Sahara
SOLD - 2014 Redwood 36RL/2014 F350 DRW
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03-08-2017, 11:39 AM
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I agree about the FL having the lightest Pin Weight of the Redwood Fleet.
My 38 FL weighted in a approximately 16,800 lbs. with a Pin Weight of only about 3000 lbs.
Still a lot of Pin Weight for a 2500 SRW Truck
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2014 Redwood 38FL
MoRyde 8K IS, Disc Brakes, MoRyde Pin Box
17.5 Goodyear G114's, RV Armor Roof
2018 RAM 3500 DRW, Curt Q24 Hitch
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03-08-2017, 03:40 PM
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It would be pushing the limits of the newer breed of 250/2500 series trucks, but with a 2006 most likely well over the GVWR and probably the GCWR.
There will be those that say they've been doing it for ever, but that doesn't make it right. Load everything up for a trip and go across the scales and see where you are, then make your decision if you feel you're safe.
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Michelle & Ann
2018 Chevy 3500HD Crew Cab High Country DRW, D/A, 2016 RW39MB, Dual ACs, Auto Level, Auto Sat Dish, Stack W/D, King Sleep #, 17.5" Sailuns w/Disc, MORryde IS & Pin, Comfort Ride Hitch, 5.5 Onan, Res Fridge & Induction Cook Top
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03-08-2017, 05:27 PM
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Wow... Finally Brad is wrong... that's a shocker.
Goodyear G614s were an option on the '12s and my RL came with them & the upgraded wheels.
Many people have gotten away with using the Marathons - until they didn't. (Just like Redwood...)
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Mike & Pam '12 36RL, Kodiak Discs, 17.5" G114s H-Rated, SRE4000 w/HD Shackles, Joy Rider Shocks, Flex Air, 5.5 Onan, W&D, DW, 4 Scare Lights, (2) 6V Trojan T-145s; Progressive EMS-HW50C, Winegard DTV Sat, Sony/Denon 4K Home Theater, WiFiRanger EliteAC Pack, weBoost 4G-X Cell Booster.
2022 RAM 3500 Limited CC, LB, 4x4, DRW, Max Tow, Cummins HO, AISIN, 4.10, Mopar 30K w/OEM Prep, Transfer Flow 70gal Aux Tank/Toolbox.
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03-08-2017, 08:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5th_Time
Wow... Finally Brad is wrong... that's a shocker.
Goodyear G614s were an option on the '12s and my RL came with them & the upgraded wheels.
Many people have gotten away with using the Marathons - until they didn't. (Just like Redwood...)
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You got me! I'm sorry I did not know that. I thought 2013.
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Brad & Dory - Lone Tree, CO
CURRENT - 2013 Itasca Meridian 42E/2013 Wrangler 4dr Sahara
SOLD - 2014 Redwood 36RL/2014 F350 DRW
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03-08-2017, 09:57 PM
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Yes that is true................the first thing I asked for in the way of upgrades, when I ordered my 2012 36RL in July 2011, was disk brakes. The second thing was upgraded wheels to GY G614 and corresponding rims. Affirmative response on both.
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2012 RW36RL,DualA/C,KodiakDiskBrakes,TrailAir Tri-Glide,GY_G614's,Roadmaster Comfort Ride Slipper Spring Suspension
2011Dodge3500Laramie,CrewCab,4x4,SRW,Michelins, LongBed,6.7LCTD,3.73,PullRiteSuper5th20.5KHitch, BlueOxBedsaver
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03-10-2017, 03:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hoosierguy
Yes that is true................the first thing I asked for in the way of upgrades, when I ordered my 2012 36RL in July 2011, was disk brakes. The second thing was upgraded wheels to GY G614 and corresponding rims. Affirmative response on both.
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I did the same on my 2012
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03-10-2017, 02:51 PM
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I also ordered both tires & disc brakes, but the RW area rep at the time talked me out of the disc as they were having all sorts of issues with the controllers & the new integrated brake controls on the newer trucks, but I got'em now.
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Danny & Linda
Full-timed 10+ years
Former '13 FB owner
Traded '13 GMC Denali DRW D/A
Currently rv & truckless
Replacement undetermined
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03-10-2017, 03:01 PM
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We also ordered our '12 36RL with Disc Brakes and G614 Tires. Never a problem with either, but after a year I upgraded to G114 17.5 Tires and Wheels.
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Michelle & Ann
2018 Chevy 3500HD Crew Cab High Country DRW, D/A, 2016 RW39MB, Dual ACs, Auto Level, Auto Sat Dish, Stack W/D, King Sleep #, 17.5" Sailuns w/Disc, MORryde IS & Pin, Comfort Ride Hitch, 5.5 Onan, Res Fridge & Induction Cook Top
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03-15-2017, 03:59 PM
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Scaling mine when I hitch up next time, 36 RE
13200 empty plus washer dryer and all my full time stuff
B&W hitch is nice with Firestone air bags r essential to save Springs and prevent chucking too.
Next tow rig is a dually even though srw is my favorite and paid for, those 2 more rear tires r safer in crosswinds and windy roads
Short haul 2500 dodge did ok but cross country would be questionable.
And I'm due for a truck upgrade soon too.
Karl
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03-15-2017, 09:43 PM
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My next truck will be a Volvo. Been inside and driven a friend's Volvo 630 medium height and love it. Weight concerns no longer a problem, gets as good mpg as the F350 and you can put one together including a custom built bed for about the same price as a Dually. And it doesn't even care if the coach is behind it ........
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Vaughan & Tracy 2013 RW 36RL, 2013 F350 DRW CC, 2016 Focus. MorRyde IS, MorRyde pinbox, disc brakes, Comfort Ride Hitch. "Life is to be embraced, Grab it with both arms ! "
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03-15-2017, 10:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piper guy
My next truck will be a Volvo. Been inside and driven a friend's Volvo 630 medium height and love it. Weight concerns no longer a problem, gets as good mpg as the F350 and you can put one together including a custom built bed for about the same price as a Dually. And it doesn't even care if the coach is behind it ........
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With the 630 could you extend the frame and carry a small car or a pair of motorcycles???
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07 Dodge 3500, Exhaust Brake, Edge Programer, Killer "B" Turbo
13 RL ALL options except Gen and W/D
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03-15-2017, 10:17 PM
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Here's a Volvo 610. It's not unusual to see a Smart car on the back of one of these trucks. This particular truck has a 235" wheelbase.
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2012 F350 KR CC DRW w/ some stuff
2013 36FL
Cindy and Tom, Toby and Kasey (our Berner and Newfie)
Oh...I forgot the five kids.
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