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Old 09-24-2013, 12:51 AM   #1
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Today as we traveled southbound on I-75 just west of Miami, FL at approximately 11:00 -11:30am we saw a Redwood Fiver traveling just ahead of us. What we noted about this unit shocked us. All four wheels and rims were tilted 5-10 degrees in at the tops. As the Fiver would react to the dips in the roadway this tilt would vary.

This is not the norm we've seen on other Redwoods we've followed (or other brands) and are wondering if the axles were bent, the unit is over loaded, etc?

If you were the one we saw [Note: your rear cap had no window so we assume yours is a rear entertainment floorplan] and you're not aware, "Hey, your wheels are really leaning (tilted) in quite a bit and you might want to check em out before something happens!"

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Could that be because it's maybe the 7k axles on a 16k gvwr rv ?
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Unless the 16k gvwr trailer was severely overloaded, by the time you subtract the pin weight, the 7k axles would be well in the safe zone. I'm curious as to what type of suspension he had on the trailer.
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Unless the 16k gvwr trailer was severely overloaded, by the time you subtract the pin weight, the 7k axles would be well in the safe zone. I'm curious as to what type of suspension he had on the trailer.
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Could that be because it's maybe the 7k axles on a 16k gvwr rv ?
OMG johnboytoo, now you're really scaring us! LOL Our 36FB came with the 7K axles and it's got a 16K GVWR.
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Unless the 16k gvwr trailer was severely overloaded, by the time you subtract the pin weight, the 7k axles would be well in the safe zone. I'm curious as to what type of suspension he had on the trailer.
I agree with you rcflame. From what I could see it was the standard Falcon suspension these units come with. This appeared to be a new or fairly new Fiver pulled by a white possibly Chevy PU with an older couple (he was driving)

Knowing what had happened to our 2008 Landmark when the axles catastrophically failed on it (under tow by original owners) on what the repair facility deemed as caused due to trailer being overweight, I hope this Redwood is not heading down the same path. I'm told it was 20K for all the repairs on our past Fiver.

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Old 09-24-2013, 12:50 PM   #7
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Real loose wheel bearings
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Funny, the 2014 36RE I am picking up tomorrow has G tires and 7k axlesand a GWVR of 16,500 pounds on the builders plate.
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I am just speculating, but Our '12 36RL came with E rated tires and has a 16k GVWR, now if they are putting G rated tires as standard, they may have raised the GVWR.
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I am just speculating, but Our '12 36RL came with E rated tires and has a 16k GVWR, now if they are putting G rated tires as standard, they may have raised the GVWR.
Mine is at 16,5000 as well because of the G rated tires
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I am just speculating, but Our '12 36RL came with E rated tires and has a 16k GVWR, now if they are putting G rated tires as standard, they may have raised the GVWR.
Being that we own a small trucking company and axle weights are of a big concern of ours with each load, you can bet I had my questions regarding the 7K axles and suspension setup. Our 36FB that has a GVWR of 16K give or take a few lbs and an actual empty weight of 13,192 lbs with a pin weight of 4500 lbs according to Redwood. Taking the gross vehicle weight minus the pin weight we should have 11,500 lbs on the axles or 2875 lbs loading on each tire when fully (and properly) loaded. according to the math there should be a reserve capacity of 1250 lbs/axle plus reserve cap on the tires. Our 36FB came with the 16" Goodyear Super E rated tires but the capacity escapes me at the moment.

Based on the above, one should then be able to safely travel at highway speed without axle or tire failure I would hope.
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Funny, the 2014 36RE I am picking up tomorrow has G tires and 7k axlesÂ*and a GWVR of 16,500 pounds on the builders plate.
I'm gonna say that the G rated tires are bumping up the GVWR the 500 pounds.

The 38's that are being built now have 18,000 pound GVWR's.

Are you picking up your coach in Maine or outta State? Just curious.

Wish you well with your purchase.

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Mine actually should have had a GVWR of 17,800 with G614 tires and 8K axles, but I never could convince engineering. I did get a new sticker that took it to 16,500 instead of 16,000 it came in with, but technically I should have gotten full load credit of 3,750 lbs per tire with the 8K axles, or 7,500 lbs per axle X 2 =15,000 lbs + 2,800 lbs pin weight = 17,800 lbs GVWR.

Oh well, I know what the capacity is, even if the sticker is conservative.
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Just left the factory today and told that G Rated is now standard - no more E Rated tires.

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Just left the factory today and told that G Rated is now standard - no more E Rated tires.
That was a good move on Redwood's part.
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