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Old 11-24-2015, 01:13 AM   #1
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Internal Trailer Brake Controller

I ordered my new Redwood with Disc Brakes. I have just spent a coupe of hours doing research on whether the Internal Brake Controller on my 2010 Chevy HD is compatible assuming the Redwood has electric over hydraulic brakes.

Does anyone know for sure if the systems are compatible or do I need an aftermarket controller and disconnect the factory one?

The last thing I want to do is find out the first time I go down a steep grade.

I would think the "Titan Guy" might have run across this issue.

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Old 11-24-2015, 01:24 AM   #2
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It's my understanding the CAM is compatible with all OEM brake controllers, except I think the brand new Dodges were having some issues.

I've had 3 different Fords (2006, 2008, 2014) connected to my Redwood disk brakes - no issues. The 2008 and 2014 had settings for hydraulic brakes on the brake controller, the 2006 did not have that setting, but it didn't matter, they all worked.
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For GM products 2011 forward, at least prior to recently, you will need the CAM Interface Module, not 100% sure on pre-2011s. That Module will fake out your GM controller into thinking it's communicating with Electric Drum Brakes. We're on our third 5er with Disc and needed the CAM Module with each. Our 2012 RW came with the Module installed, on our 2016 RW I had to install the spare CAM Module I was carrying. If RW doesn't install one, the dealer should if you supplied them with info on your TV, if not the Module runs approx $120 bucks.
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For GM products, at least prior to recently, you will need the CAM Interface Module. That Module will fake out your GM controller into thinking it's communicating with Electric Drum Brakes. We're on our third 5er with Disc and needed the CAM Module with each. Our 2012 RW came with the Module installed, on our 2016 RW I had to install the spare CAM Module I was carrying. If RW doesn't install one, the dealer should if you supplied them with info on your TV, if not the Module runs approx $120 bucks.
I didn't realize your new Redwood didn't come with the CAM. It thought that was standard.
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It may have been because there was a mix-up at RW, when entering our unit into their system, the entry clerk missed the Disc Brake line item, luckily it was caught by Mor/ryde when they we doing the IS, so our Disc Brakes we actually installed by Mor/ryde and not the Factory, so since they we unaware of what TV we had, there was no CAM Module installed, and of course Lazydays being "The RV Authority" didn't have a clue, so I just installed my spare while they we doing satellite work.
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The Cam module should take care of any compatibility issues. Check with Cargo Solutions, I think they make 2 different Cam modules. 800-933-1001
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M&A What lets you know that you need the CAM? Do the brakes just not work or how can I be sure whether I need it or not?
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Old 11-24-2015, 03:23 AM   #8
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Without the trailer hooked up. pull the breakaway switch, the pump should come on and build pressure.
Hook up the Truck, have someone apply the brakes and listen for the same sound. The pump should come on and build pressure. If not, you have a problem.
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I ordered my new Redwood with Disc Brakes. I have just spent a coupe of hours doing research on whether the Internal Brake Controller on my 2010 Chevy HD is compatible assuming the Redwood has electric over hydraulic brakes.

Does anyone know for sure if the systems are compatible or do I need an aftermarket controller and disconnect the factory one?

The last thing I want to do is find out the first time I go down a steep grade.

I would think the "Titan Guy" might have run across this issue.

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I have a 2015 GMC and my internal brake control was not compatible moth my 2016 Redwood electric over hydraulic brakes. I had to replace the cam module with a different one. Contact Titan Guy and he can give you the phone number for Carlisle Kodiak. I contacted them and they. Walked me through what I had to do to get truck brake control to work with my Redwood. No problems since.
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It may have been because there was a mix-up at RW, when entering our unit into their system, the entry clerk missed the Disc Brake line item, luckily it was caught by Mor/ryde when they we doing the IS, so our Disc Brakes we actually installed by Mor/ryde and not the Factory, so since they we unaware of what TV we had, there was no CAM Module installed, and of course Lazydays being "The RV Authority" didn't have a clue, so I just installed my spare while they we doing satellite work.
Wow I am a little suprised that you would consider this Module a requirement for you spare parts kit.
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I've had 3 different Fords (2006, 2008, 2014)
I wonder if you would to switch trucks so often if you went with a GMC rather then a Ford. - Just thinking out loud.
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I wonder if you would to switch trucks so often if you went with a GMC rather then a Ford. - Just thinking out loud.
You assume I bought new Fords for reasons other than I just wanted a new Ford.
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I wonder if you would to switch trucks so often if you went with a GMC rather then a Ford. - Just thinking out loud.
He was only trying out the evolution of Ford power plants. 6.0, 6.4, 6.7 until he found one he liked! I stopped at the 6.0!
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He was only trying out the evolution of Ford power plants. 6.0, 6.4, 6.7 until he found one he liked! I stopped at the 6.0!
That's exactly right actually even had the 2001 7.3, but that was before disk brakes and Redwood so I didn't include it.
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I skipped the 7.3 but had the 6.0 - trouble free for me... the 6.4 with some regen issues... and now the 6.7... hands down the best so far!
but started my Ford days with the old 351 Windsor in my old F-250,, GREAT engine.
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I skipped the 7.3 but had the 6.0 - trouble free for me... the 6.4 with some regen issues... and now the 6.7... hands down the best so far!
but started my Ford days with the old 351 Windsor in my old F-250,, GREAT engine.
never had any issues with any of the four, but did lose the tranny on the 7.3. 6.0 I had since new and it did well, actually pulled the Redwood home from Texas.

Back before the 7.3 I was a GM guy with the 454. It did pretty well.
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It did pretty well because they don't make them like that anymore!! That 454 was a beast with the proper gearing !
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Ya, it had the 4.10 ! I might of stayed with GM for a while, but that Cummins and Powerstroke became hard to beat for towing.
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The Cam module should take care of any compatibility issues. Check with Cargo Solutions, I think they make 2 different Cam modules. 800-933-1001
Question: just purchased 2016 Silverado 3500 DWD High Country long bed. Will the Titan disc brakes you installed on our 2013 36RL, at the 2015 RW rally work with this new truck? Thanks.
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I think we used the Titan "Cam" module on your trailer. Should be a 3" square black box mounted near the actuator. There should be nothing else you need.
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