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Old 04-04-2014, 05:24 PM   #1
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Truck squat

When I loaded my fifth wheel up today for my trip to Alaska , I measured the amount of squat and it was 2 inches .Is that too much? Going to try to find a scale and weigh the rig. What kind of weights should I be looking for?
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Old 04-04-2014, 05:52 PM   #2
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My 36RL pin weight with full water is 4,344 lbs. It makes my dually squat a little. I use airbags to return it to the normal height.
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:03 PM   #3
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Ran across the scales and got the following weights, steer axle 5240, drive axle 7600, trail or axle 13280 and total 26120. I have a 6000 front axle and 7000 rear',can't remember on the trail or. Am I OK?
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Ran across the scales and got the following weights, steer axle 5240, drive axle 7600, trail or axle 13280 and total 26120. I have a 6000 front axle and 7000 rear',can't remember on the trail or. Am I OK?
It's hard to say if you are ok because you have to know what your tow vehicles weight ratings are. With what you just posted, if your rear axle is a 7000 lb axle and you weighed at 7600 you are over weight by 600 lbs on the rear axle. Your total (GCVW) is 26120 but without knowing your GCVW rating of your truck we don't know if you have a problem.
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Here's my take, our TV has a slight forward rake (rear of box is several inches higher than the front) so with the weight of the RW it levels out the TV and the RW rides level.
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Here's my take, our TV has a slight forward rake (rear of box is several inches higher than the front) so with the weight of the RW it levels out the TV and the RW rides level.
I have a 31sl which is probably the lightest of the Redwoods. My tow vehicle is a 2011 Ford F350 Crew Cab with a long bed and single rear wheels. When I hitched up the 31sl it did squat the rear of my truck to the point that I felt I needed to bring it back up for level. I installed Firestone air bags and solved that issue, now it pulls level, rides great when towing.
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My take is know the ratings of your vehicle. Air bags etc, don't change the ratings. If I squat a little when hooked up and don't hit the spring stops when traveling I don't worry about it. I use the hitch to level the trailer. But I don't go over the gvw for the truck or trailer, gcwr for both combined, or front or rear weight ratings.
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Did you install the air bags yourself?
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My take is know the ratings of your vehicle. Air bags etc, don't change the ratings. If I squat a little when hooked up and don't hit the spring stops when traveling I don't worry about it. I use the hitch to level the trailer. But I don't go over the gvw for the truck or trailer, gcwr for both combined, or front or rear weight ratings.
I agree, always go by the ratings of the vehicle. It was a personal issue more than anything causing me to add the air bags. My intent was not to try and change the ratings. In my case, I tried to level the rig with the hitch but it just wouldn't quite do it.
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Ya, if you are in a 1 ton SRW you are over the axle rating, most likely tire rating as well, by about 300 or 400 lbs.

If you are in a dually - you got it made.

The 36RL is a front heavy beast. If you are overloading the rear of the TV, you might try shifting some storage to the back LR area, as you have a little bit of capacity left on the trailer axles.
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Ya, if you are in a 1 ton SRW you are over the axle rating, most likely tire rating as well, by about 300 or 400 lbs.

If you are in a dually - you got it made.

The 36RL is a front heavy beast. If you are overloading the rear of the TV, you might try shifting some storage to the back LR area, as you have a little bit of capacity left on the trailer axles.
I bought my F450 first knowing whatever RV I decided on would be fine.
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Did you install the air bags yourself?
Yes, I did install myself. I purchased the Firestone bags from Amazon and the local shops wanted too much to install so I thought I would give it a try. Working under the truck was not that comfortable for me and it took me about a week to install. I would only work a couple of hours under there before I would give it up for the day. When I got done, I took it to one of the install shops to get their opinion on my job and they wanted to offer me a job. I told them I would be happy to do their installs as long as they would give me 2 weeks for each one. Ha! They wouldn't take me up on it, wonder why? You can find videos online that show you the install and the included directions were fairly easy to follow. I did have to purchase 2 longer bolts due to the fact that I already had a hitch installed using quick brackets that bolt direct to the frame.
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Did you install the air bags yourself?
I installed mine. Super easy bolt on application. No drilling etc. took about 20 minutes a side
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Were yours Firestone also
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My truck squat was just shy of 3". Although well within weight specs, I have a f450 dually, I didn't like the squat. I installed Timbrens, an alternative to air bags. I've had them on my last three trucks and find they do the job.

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My truck squat was just shy of 3". Although well within weight specs, I have a f450 dually, I didn't like the squat. I installed Timbrens, an alternative to air bags. I've had them on my last three trucks and find they do the job.

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I installed the Timbrens also and they work as advertised. Got them from eTrailer on line. Took about an hour to remove original bump stops and install Timbrens.

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I got my airlift bags and wireless One compressor installed for $39 @ Camping world...

NICE going down the rode and being able to change the psi in the bags !!!
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I got my airlift bags and wireless One compressor installed for $39 @ Camping world...

NICE going down the rode and being able to change the psi in the bags !!!
Also went to Camping World and sat reading the Kindle while they did the install for $39. Best money I ever spent.
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I got my airlift bags and wireless One compressor installed for $39 @ Camping world...

NICE going down the rode and being able to change the psi in the bags !!!
Can you give more info on this. $39. Is that labor? How much for parts?
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