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Old 05-30-2014, 05:32 AM   #1
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Braking question

On my most recent trip with the Redwood I decided to select the driver info screen n the Ford that shows the trailer brake and the equivalent power you are getting with the rear brakes. I was somewhat shocked at how little the bar moved unless your braking heavily. When going down steep grades I tend to gear down and lightly touch or drag the brakes when needed. Sometimes at the bottom of the hill I'll push a little harder to keep the speed down. When doing this I noticed that I'd only get 2-3 bars (out of 10 I believe) with the trailer brakes. This shocked me a bit as I expected more.

A little about my setup, drum brakes and the Ford controller is set to 10 (max setting).

BTW, when I glanced down it was safe to do so, never was in any harm.

What are others with Fords seeing with both disc and drum brakes.
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Old 05-30-2014, 06:34 AM   #2
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I set the controller at 7 and test it once hooked up and just before we depart.

For going down hills I rarely use the brakes. In tow/haul mode, I use the +/- to downshift and on a 6% hill drop down to 3 and find it holds nicely at 60 mph. On grades > 6% I have to tap the brakes occasionally to check the speed.

When using the brakes the number of bars illuminated depends on the pressure applied to the brake pedal. A light application gets a couple of bars, which increase with more pedal pressure. When stopped at a light I believe all the bars are illuminated.

We have drum brakes.
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Old 05-30-2014, 11:50 AM   #3
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Basic rule of thumb for the Ford braking system.. 1 point of gain (on the controller setting) for every 1000 pounds of trailer weight. Refer to your Ford Owner`s Manual and ask the Ford servicing tech.. .. both state the same.. On the 2012 and up F 350`s and higher.. the latest software update for the truck`s PCM.. includes additional calibration updates for the brake controller. If you feel it is not functioning correctly HAVE IT CHECKED!!! Ford had past issues with it`s integrated braking systems.
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Old 05-30-2014, 01:01 PM   #4
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Another factoid I was told on another forum (take it with a grain of salt) is that with the built in sway control and anti lock brakes, the rv's brakes perform 'differently'...

but, they do stop you !
was concerned about having to set ours @ 10 too, but squeezing the manual tabs together will SLAM you to a stop so the brakes WILL stop you...
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Old 05-30-2014, 01:10 PM   #5
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My RL has disk brakes and i run the brake controler set at 9
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Old 05-30-2014, 01:46 PM   #6
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With the drum brakes I used 7.5-8.5 and it stopped ok. I realized that the disks would be better.
Now, with the new Kodiak Disc setup, I'm using 6.5-7 and the whole rig stops like it's just the truck. One thing I've discovered though is that the 2013 f350 is different setup than my 12 was. There isn't a setting different for electric/hydraulic, the integrated controller knows which brake system the trailer has and sets the truck accordingly.
Scary - truck is smarter than I am ....

Btw, the disc and MorRyde IS upgrade is incredible.
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Old 05-30-2014, 03:13 PM   #7
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Hmmm,
my 13 350 has the setting for electric or electric/hydraulic...

maybe I don't have the latest software though - I did hear there's a tsb for the IBC ... so have to give up my nice truck for a day ---- just never had a reason to bring the truck in - been too reliable
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Old 05-30-2014, 04:49 PM   #8
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For the last two Ford trucks and a drum brake and a disk brake trailer, mine has pretty much been set to 6.5, and up to 7.5 on 5% or greater grades.

I always set mine to the lock up the trailer tires on gravel under 15 mph. Learned that somewhere, maybe even the Ford manual but I doubt it because I'm a male. Maybe Dory read it.
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Old 05-30-2014, 06:36 PM   #9
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I have a '13 and it has electric or Hyd option. Also have the latest SW update so should be good to go.

I suspect its braking OK, but there was a 10% grade on the highway between Monument Valley, UT and Blanding, UT where I got really nervous. Had the truck in 2nd gear going about 35 MPH. 60 MPH is way to fast for that type of decent and the passes here in CO (Vail and Eisenhower). They are only about 6% but they go on for miles and have lots of turns; and runaway truck ramps, for good reason...
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I-70 actually gets to 7%. Compared to that little "bump" Raton pass on I-25 at 6%, I-70 into Denver can age me a couple of years for some reason. Between giant signs telling truckers it "aint over yet" to runaway truck ramps, crazy drivers, rain, fog, snow (even in July) its pretty intimidating. Came down one year pulling two trailers in nasty rain and hail and all the flashing lights and DW saw a "deer crossing" sign. With brakes smoking - engine revin - wipers slappin, she looked at me and said to Heck with the deer
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