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Old 07-29-2018, 03:26 AM   #1
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Surge Protector

We need to get a new Surge Protector. We are planning to get a hardwire protector--I (George) installed the last one--so we prefer the hardwire and not mess with the portable ones.

Question: Is there a brand/model you recommend?
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Old 07-29-2018, 04:18 AM   #2
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Progressive Industries EMS.
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Old 07-29-2018, 06:13 AM   #3
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Second that vote. I have a remote indicator that I mounted in the entry door cabinet by the slideout switches (next to entry coat closet). It gives you L1 and L2 voltage, current error messages and an error message if your power is interrupted by its actions. Plus if I'm not mistaken, it carries a lifetime warranty.

Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/Progressive-I...?tag=chrmwp-20

Warranty: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....11eZjn5ORS.pdf
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Progressive absolutely. Mounted my remote readout in the service bay.
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Old 07-29-2018, 01:40 PM   #5
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Old 07-30-2018, 06:52 PM   #6
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There are only two I know of on the market - the Progressive Industries mentioned above, and the TRC Surge-Guard. Both do a good job but have slightly different specs.

I've had both and prefer the Surge-Guard. When installing the Progressive Industries ESM-LCHW50, I found the instructions were printed with the unit upside down in the diagram causing me to have to take it all back out and reinstall. They said "oops" and that they knew about the error, but they still have the error. Also had trouble keeping the display card in, as it would fall out of the card slot on rough roads and I would have to take it all apart to retrieve it. (mine did not have the remote readout, it was on the unit) I finally had to wire-tie it back on. The unit worked fine, I just found the company to be a little too immature in the industry and not really a lot of help technically.

Surge-Guard (recently bought out by Southwire) has a lot more depth in the industry and a much wider offering in the RV industry. I found the quality inside the unit to be better as well. I just installed a 40350-RVC which includes the transfer switch.

Here is the Surge Guard equivalent to the Progressive Industries.

https://rvpower.southwire.com/produc...s-model-40240/

https://www.amazon.com/Technology-Re.../dp/B00A0RAUM6
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:58 PM   #7
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We had a wired in Surge-Guard when we had a problem with power. We could not get full voltage on L2. So I replaced it with a Progressive. Still had issues. Found that the amount of power was relative to how much power cable we had off the cord reel. Took the cord reel apart and found this.



Burnt the contacts for the L2 leg on the inside of the reel. TRC did not have parts to repair. So I added a plug to the house side and the cable from the reel to have power. We got a new reel at the Rally this year.

Now for reference. The 3 contacts revolve around the commutator. The cable to the house attaches to the posts on the commutator and the outside cable attaches to the board. I did cleanup the commutator but was not able to find contacts. Tried every electrical supply and motor repair shop I could find.

So along with the Progressive, I am using a portable Surge-Guard at the pedestal to protect the cord reel. Don't want to go through this again.

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We had a wired in Surge-Guard when we had a problem with power. We could not get full voltage on L2. So I replaced it with a Progressive. Still had issues. Found that the amount of power was relative to how much power cable we had off the cord reel. Took the cord reel apart and found this.



Burnt the contacts for the L2 leg on the inside of the reel. TRC did not have parts to repair. So I added a plug to the house side and the cable from the reel to have power. We got a new reel at the Rally this year.

Now for reference. The 3 contacts revolve around the commutator. The cable to the house attaches to the posts on the commutator and the outside cable attaches to the board. I did cleanup the commutator but was not able to find contacts. Tried every electrical supply and motor repair shop I could find.

So along with the Progressive, I am using a portable Surge-Guard at the pedestal to protect the cord reel. Don't want to go through this again.

Rick
Here's another good selling point for portable surge protector/EMS. I've had a portable for about 12 years & the advantage to me was this is the 3rd rv so only had to buy 1 surge protector not 3. Mines not/never has been locked up & has never walked away.
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Old 07-30-2018, 09:42 PM   #9
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I agree Danny. A wired in gives you the convenience to not have to carry a portable. But this is a good reason to carry one. I got lucky and was given the one I now use. Still have the wired in one too.

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We had a wired in Surge-Guard when we had a problem with power. We could not get full voltage on L2. So I replaced it with a Progressive. Still had issues. Found that the amount of power was relative to how much power cable we had off the cord reel. Took the cord reel apart and found this.



Burnt the contacts for the L2 leg on the inside of the reel. TRC did not have parts to repair. So I added a plug to the house side and the cable from the reel to have power. We got a new reel at the Rally this year.

Now for reference. The 3 contacts revolve around the commutator. The cable to the house attaches to the posts on the commutator and the outside cable attaches to the board. I did cleanup the commutator but was not able to find contacts. Tried every electrical supply and motor repair shop I could find.

So along with the Progressive, I am using a portable Surge-Guard at the pedestal to protect the cord reel. Don't want to go through this again.

Rick
Wow, I have a cord reel now and never even thought about the contacts there causing issues. Good post!

However, was that a cord reel problem, or power problem? I'm not sure what the portable surge does for you unless you are saying the pedestal impacted the cord reel?
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Brad,

No idea, I test every pedestal before I plug in. We had good power at a park we have been to before. Did not have to reset the clocks so I do not think we had a power hit. Moved 180 miles to a newer casino RV park, pedestal tested good but no power on the second leg. Pulled the cord out some and had power.

So I do not know when the issue happened. Or if it was a pedestal problem. When I talked to TRC, before I knew what the exact problem was, they told me to take the center cover off and make sure the connections were tight. If they were, drill out the rivets and make sure the contacts were still making contact with the commutator. You can see what I found. Then they told me they did not have parts.

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Sorry that happened Rick! I'll know now to periodically check mine (I think mine is a TRC as well).
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