Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-02-2015, 02:57 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 648
G Tire Failures with Disk Brakes?

Has anyone had a 235/85R16 G tire failure with disc brakes?
I am convinced that heat is an issue with electric brakes. When we did Shane Wood's disk brake conversion, 1 electric brake was covered with grease. I think he only had 1,400 miles on the trailer. The consistency of the grease was more like a milk shake than grease. Like the grease had been overheated and liquefied. As I read other forums there are many that end up with grease on the brakes and seals blown but it appears they are all on electric brakes. I cannot recall a situation where the rear seal on disc brakes was blown.
We know for a fact that disk brakes run substantially cooler. How does that effect the tire? I am not sure but the much hotter running electric brake must have an effect in the tire.

I have Goodyear G tires and have driven over 20k in the last 18 mos. with no issues. I did replace 2 because the 7k lippert axles were so far out of alignment no one would bend them and I had the Mor/Ryde IS installed. But, no tire failures when the axles were out of alignment.

I am not a 60 mph driver. I am typically 65-75 mph. Mor/Ryde weighed the trailer when the IS was installed LR 3,410 LF 3,310 RF 3,260 RR 3,210.
My total weight is 17,130.

I do believe the ST235/80R16 E in any brand is inadequate for the Redwood.
__________________

Ron & Margaret
2014 Ram 3500 DRW 6.7, Aisin, 4.10
"Pequod" 2015 Redwood 38GK
Titan Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2015, 03:21 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 425
Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan Guy View Post
Has anyone had a 235/85R16 G tire failure with disc brakes?
I am convinced that heat is an issue with electric brakes. When we did Shane Wood's disk brake conversion, 1 electric brake was covered with grease. I think he only had 1,400 miles on the trailer. The consistency of the grease was more like a milk shake than grease. Like the grease had been overheated and liquefied. As I read other forums there are many that end up with grease on the brakes and seals blown but it appears they are all on electric brakes. I cannot recall a situation where the rear seal on disc brakes was blown.
We know for a fact that disk brakes run substantially cooler. How does that effect the tire? I am not sure but the much hotter running electric brake must have an effect in the tire.

I have Goodyear G tires and have driven over 20k in the last 18 mos. with no issues. I did replace 2 because the 7k lippert axles were so far out of alignment no one would bend them and I had the Mor/Ryde IS installed. But, no tire failures when the axles were out of alignment.

I am not a 60 mph driver. I am typically 65-75 mph. Mor/Ryde weighed the trailer when the IS was installed LR 3,410 LF 3,310 RF 3,260 RR 3,210.
My total weight is 17,130.

I do believe the ST235/80R16 E in any brand is inadequate for the Redwood.
Lippert makes the axels and sends them to RW to build. The bearings on the electric brakes are not prepacked and they use a grease gun to load the bearings from the dust cover on the hub. Hence, the rear seal is blown out and the drums get coated with grease. Grease on the drums does not make the brakes slide, it makes them stick. If your controller is not set correctly, the brakes will ride on the drums and cause heat.
__________________

2014 38GK, disc brakes, MorRyde SRE 4000, 2-Yamaha 2000 gennys, G14's, dual awnings, Progressive EMS.
2014 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn DRW with Luverne Bull Bar and skid plate.
coloradolivin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2015, 04:02 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
5th_Time's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,121
Actually, I think Lippert makes the entire frame with axles & suspension already mounted. On a factory tour, you could see them all lined up outside waiting to enter the building for assembly.
__________________
Mike & Pam '12 36RL, Kodiak Discs, 17.5" G114s H-Rated, SRE4000 w/HD Shackles, Joy Rider Shocks, Flex Air, 5.5 Onan, W&D, DW, 4 Scare Lights, (2) 6V Trojan T-145s; Progressive EMS-HW50C, Winegard DTV Sat, Sony/Denon 4K Home Theater, WiFiRanger EliteAC Pack, weBoost 4G-X Cell Booster.

'18 GMC Denali 3500HD CC, 4x4, DRW, DuraMax, Allison, Curt Q25 w/OEM Prep, Intellihaul Cameras, Transfer Flow 70gal Aux Tank/Toolbox.
5th_Time is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Redwood RV or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×