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Old 10-19-2016, 02:24 AM   #1
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Water Tank Heating Pads

My 2015 GK is equipped with tank heaters. There is 1 switch for all of them. I am assuming they run on 12v. But due to the drain using 4 tank heaters I would probably need to keep the truck running or the gen running as long as we are in below zero temps. These tanks will only have about 2-3 gal of antifreeze / water in them.
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Are they on 12v?
Will I kill the batteries if I keep the gen running?
Can I cause any damage if I run these blankets / pads with so little liquid in them?
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I'm curious why you would want to run the heaters if the trailer is winterized
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We are leaving Montrael on Dec 8. By that date the temps can be in the -30f. And with the wind chill that can go to -50 easy. Even though the "pink stuff" is classified for-50 it starts to gell at about -20. The 6 hours in the mountains can get really cold. I was once stuck there with -40 and 4-5 feet falling over a 5 hour period. So we just want to keep as many items on our side than not..A second trick I learn't years ago...Once all your piping system are Genteelly blown out--(max 20 psi)-all plumbing pipes are filled with "pink stuff" i was taught to then open all the low drain points and then the taps. And let the system drain. This way the system has been winterized...and drained so should you happen to hit the -50 -60 you still can not burst a pipe as they are 90% empty..

was that as clear as MUDD ......
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When I lived in Alberta I would blow the lines add pink to all traps and low points and never had a problem. Back then there were no tank heaters
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Old 10-19-2016, 05:16 AM   #5
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While traveling turn the furnace on, it blows heat into the basement & holding tanks.
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I don't recommend running the furnace while going down the road. We have personally known a couple of people that had fires start while driving--and completely totaled their rig.

We have gone to a couple of safety and fire sessions at different rallies. All of said... turn off propane when traveling.
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Ted - I'm 90% sure those tank heaters are 120 volt. They would pull way to much amperage for 12 volt. If it were me, and I had a generator on board, I would put a small electric ceramic disc heater in the basement and another in the crawl space behind the basement wall. Tun the furnace on while you're stopped to preheat the basement and the tanks and then shut it down and use the space heaters.

The other option would be to add the Cheap Heat electric heat option to the furnace. Then you could fire the generator, switch the furnace to electric, and have all the duct work blowing hot air without being concerned about propane.
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Wayne, while our temps in Ontario aren't as cold as Montreal I have had the residual water/AF mix in the fresh water tank on previous RVs freeze over the winter (I could tell by the condensation on the plastic underbelly in the early spring because of the "ice block" in the tank above). I never had a problem with a leaking tank. Hopefully you won't be too much below freezing that early in the winter, given our warm fall.
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I don't recommend running the furnace while going down the road. We have personally known a couple of people that had fires start while driving--and completely totaled their rig.

We have gone to a couple of safety and fire sessions at different rallies. All of said... turn off propane when traveling.
How do you cool your refrigerator while traveling with the propane off? You must have the residential frig!
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Once all your piping system are Genteelly blown out--(max 20 psi)-all plumbing pipes are filled with "pink stuff" i was taught to then open all the low drain points and then the taps. And let the system drain. This way the system has been winterized...and drained so should you happen to hit the -50 -60 you still can not burst a pipe as they are 90% empty..

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The same would apply to your tanks - 90% empty - so why worry about it? there is plenty of room in the tanks for any ice that forms to expand.
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How do you cool your refrigerator while traveling with the propane off? You must have the residential frig!

Danny,

My refrigerator works fine on propane while traveling, but, I have never been able to keep the furnace burner operating while traveling. It seems like there is too much air blowing in through the exterior vent panel and it blows out the flame.

Does your furnace operate while traveling?

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Guy,
I've only traveled with furnace a couple times & it stayed lit, but I've got the little domed screens on the intake/exhaust of the furnace so maybe that helps.
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I've only traveled with furnace a couple times & it stayed lit, but I've got the little domed screens on the intake/exhaust of the furnace so maybe that helps.

Danny.........I have wondered if putting some sort of wind baffle on the front side of those vents might help the issue, but haven't tried that yet. We typically leave Indiana for Florida when the weather/temperatures is rather cold in the 10* to 30* range. I generally try to warm up the interior of the coach to 70* for a couple of days prior to departure. By the time we arrive at our first stop in Kentucky, the interior temps are down to upper 50's. The coach could get rather chilly if I had to start out in colder temp's towards 0*. Maybe that means we just depart for Florida much earlier, except the family likes us to be home for Christmas!!!

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Ted - I'm 90% sure those tank heaters are 120 volt. They would pull way to much amperage for 12 volt. If it were me, and I had a generator on board, I would put a small electric ceramic disc heater in the basement and another in the crawl space behind the basement wall. Tun the furnace on while you're stopped to preheat the basement and the tanks and then shut it down and use the space heaters.

The other option would be to add the Cheap Heat electric heat option to the furnace. Then you could fire the generator, switch the furnace to electric, and have all the duct work blowing hot air without being concerned about propane.

I've ran down the highway with the generator on without a problem. I even had the electric fireplace running.
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I've ran down the highway with the generator on without a problem. I even had the electric fireplace running.
What Dave said....
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Danny,

My refrigerator works fine on propane while traveling, but, I have never been able to keep the furnace burner operating while traveling. It seems like there is too much air blowing in through the exterior vent panel and it blows out the flame.

Does your furnace operate while traveling?

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Yes the furnace will operate while going down the highway
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Yes the furnace will operate while going down the highway

Dave.......I understand that the furnace should operate, but, the wind turbulence while traveling seems to prevent it from firing or at least continuing to fire while traveling.

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So did the heat pads turn out to be 12v or 110v?
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I don't recommend running the furnace while going down the road. We have personally known a couple of people that had fires start while driving--and completely totaled their rig.

We have gone to a couple of safety and fire sessions at different rallies. All of said... turn off propane when traveling.
Totally agree. Propane should be off at the tanks for safety.
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