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Old 10-23-2020, 04:27 PM   #1
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THIRD Stress Crack

I have a 2014 36RL

I had my third stress crack appear while on vacation this week. I had it repaired twice. Once at a Redwood authorized repair shop in Texas and once at a repair shop because the authorized repair shop did a horrible job. The new repair shop put in a hell of a lot of braces to keep it together but yet again another stress crack appeared. It cost my insurance 18,000 to repair it. I'm frustrated and need to know what Redwood is doing to repair these. If this wasn't paid off, it would be GONE! I don't want another payment LOL.
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Old 10-26-2020, 02:42 AM   #2
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What are you towing the trailer with ? do you have a air ride pin box or air ride hitch ? what does the trailer weight on the wheels and how much pin weight does the truck carry? Seams like your fitting a battle and not getting any help with finding the root cause.
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Old 10-26-2020, 02:44 PM   #3
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I know how you feel! Our 2013 36RL is at our dealer, almost all the welds have given way (looks like Lippert cold welds), the main steel tube at the top rear peeled open and the triangular reinforcement that supports the landing legs has broken. Not sure if our insurance will cover it if they deem it a manufacturing defect. Tim Cress at Redwood was sent some pictures by the dealer. one picture attached
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Old 11-01-2020, 03:45 AM   #4
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Well that’s not a cold weld, the primary steal member broke. The material is substandard maybe Chinese steel or it just is not thick enough for the loads.

Regardless all this has us worried because we have a ton of mods in our 2015 to make it ours and we don’t want a failure like this to kill our dreams. We want to drive our rig for another 10 year and we full time travel!
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where did you get this clear photo of the cracks. Underneath the cover of the pin box or some place else?
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The picture was taken by our dealer after he removed the plastic piece that's around the pin box. The picture shows the damage where the steel tubing from the pin box area is welded to the main steel tube on the curbside. I first noticed the problem when the pin box moved up an inch or two when connected to the truck after the landing gear was lifted, I also saw the side corner move and create an opening.
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Old 11-01-2020, 02:37 PM   #7
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Your problem is nothing new for Lippert and Cross Roads/Thor. This has been going on for many years.

Here is a link that dates back to 2011. Happened to a friend of mine.Very detailed write up. You would think they would have learned there lesson by now.


https://www.crossroadsowners.com/for...ment-3360.html
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Your problem is nothing new for Lippert and Cross Roads/Thor. This has been going on for many years.

Here is a link that dates back to 2011. Happened to a friend of mine.Very detailed write up. You would think they would have learned there lesson by now.


https://www.crossroadsowners.com/for...ment-3360.html

Yes, I am aware, the Lippert issue goes back well before 2011, some issues came forward in the early 2000's or earlier. We are half timers and I wouldn't recommend full timing with a 5th wheeler as virtually all of the manufacturers use Lippert frames.
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Old 11-02-2020, 05:44 PM   #9
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Pin Box Flex due to cracks?

Found Lippert Measurement Sheet.









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Found Lippert Measurement Sheet.
I looked at the sheet but there is no specification of what the difference should be or what to do if the movement is TOO great ???

Are the publish standard deviations ?
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Spoke to Lippert, they said if your measurements differ by 1/4-3/8 you may want to investigate.











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