Severe fading - Page 2

atom ant · 06-17-2015, 04:03 PM

It's a problem with the fiberglass, and its NOT just Redwood. I was shopping with my daughter and brand new TTs with the brown front cap were already faded. There were several at the shop being sanded for paint.

Grizzby · 06-17-2015, 04:12 PM

This is issue of fading is something that cannot be classified as "normal". The question is why is it happening on newer units? Fiberglass manufacturing is far from being new technology!

atom ant · 06-17-2015, 04:39 PM

To me its s pigment issue - but I don't know a lot of about it. Back in the 80s and 90s when Fleetwood Tioga and others went to a corrugated tan fiberglass as an alternative to white or aluminum, it was only a matter of a couple years before they were chalk looking, and there wasn't a whole lot you go do about it.

Doesn't look like the technology has improved much.

markw · 06-17-2015, 04:43 PM

Maybe because they are no longer all white today. Color fading would be much more noticeable. Don't forget the $$$ it would probably take to eliminate it.

Mark

atom ant · 06-17-2015, 06:37 PM

Its a flaw. some of the Outbacks at the Dealer my daughter was looking at were bleached white at the top and they hadn't even gotten titled yet.

ChristianM · 06-17-2015, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Conniebrad

I purchased my 2012 Redwood approximately 1 year ago. I have noticed a lot of fading on the rear of the coach, under the rear window. I called Inspiration RV to come out and clean, wax and UV protect my unit, he indicated that this fading is NOT normal, and indicated that I should check to see if this a covered under a warranty. I purchased the unit from Explorer USA RV in Fort Worth last year, I purchased it as a used unit, at the time I also purchased the extended warranty (which apparently only covers mechanical issues). So I contacted Crossroads RV Warranty, they indicated that the warranty is non-transferable since I purchased it used. This was a large investment for a single woman, and I need this fixed before it gets even worse, it a 2012 unit, it’s still NEW. Does anyone have any suggestions? Has anyone else noticed the fading on the back of their unit?
I have a 2012 36FB.

Hi Connie!
I apologize that you have been experiencing problems! I have contacted you directly to get some information and try to help you in any way we can.
Hang in there!
Christian

**piper guy** · 06-18-2015, 12:33 AM

Color fading in gel coat in Fiberglas is a problem. Those of us that had boats won't even look at a boat with colored gel coat because we know it will fade. Not if, but when. One of the biggest reasons I went with a full paint. When I bought mine, there was a dealer in Michigan that was trying to make me the deal if the year, but ..... It didn't have paint.

To my knowledge, no one has cured the fading pigment problem yet. I just delivered a boat that is 1 year old and the hull sides are fading ( cost of boat $400k plus). It is being hauled and prepped for paint next month and no, the manufacturer is not paying for it.

atom ant · 06-18-2015, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by piper guy

Color fading in gel coat in Fiberglas is a problem. Those of us that had boats won't even look at a boat with colored gel coat because we know it will fade. Not if, but when.

I noticed putting on the registration stickers last month, she celebrates her 20th year this year! Not even beginning to show color fade. We have been very fortunate with this one!

Jim & Mary · 06-18-2015, 06:43 AM

Brad

Is there any toy that you don't have? How do you find time to play with them all? (We're all jealous)

Jim

**piper guy** · 06-18-2015, 12:36 PM

Brad - think that high mountain air and short season might have something to do with it ? Just kidding, you're one of the very lucky ones. The older SeaRays are great boats but they all had their fade problems too.

Good looking boat.

atom ant · 06-18-2015, 03:00 PM

Short season definitely plays a role, but this high mountain air also has killer UV. This boat was stored outside for 10 years under a cover before we started putting it in a garage. But regardless, I am impressed after 20 years no color fade, no yellowing, and the interior is flawless. It has outlasted 2 travel trailers and 3 fifth wheels

Jim, to be honest I am running out to time to play with them all and interests change - this one will probably go to my daughter in next year or two as I'm getting a little tired of hauling it around. It's Dory that just loves it and won't let go.

Jake and Theda · 06-19-2015, 12:45 AM

We have the same problem. We purchased a 2013 36rl from a private party. They had an electrical fire in their original redwood. After quite a hassle, redwood replaced it with a new redwood. They never slept in it as they had already purchased a new one thinking they would get a cash settlement from redwood. So we bought what we thought was a excellent camper only to find out when we parked it in an rv park, we are the only Redwood there and out of 150 campers ours is the only one showing fade! Redwood won't cover it under our 7 year warranty as we were not the original owner! they basically told us if we would have lied and given the first owners name, they would have covered a new paint job! too bad we didn't know that before we called! It is a shame that with a rv over $100000, they won't do anything!

tjhome20@iowatelecom.net · 06-01-2016, 09:20 PM

Did you ever get this solved? They told us the same thing even though ours was never used when we bought it, we were the second owner and they would not do anything. Looks pretty sad at the campground with all the nice Big Horns!

markw · 06-02-2016, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tjhome20@iowatelecom.net

Did you ever get this solved? They told us the same thing even though ours was never used when we bought it, we were the second owner and they would not do anything. Looks pretty sad at the campground with all the nice Big Horns!

The only permanent fix is to paint the caps.I caught mine in time that RW paid to paint them.

Mark

RollsRoyce · 08-13-2016, 02:56 AM

I have a 2012 36FB. I t had faded on both ends in a very short time. I found that Rw had many problems like this and they had me take it to Johnson's Fiberglass repair and paint shop on Jon Jones at Alsbury in Burleson, TX. They re-painted both end caps with exceptionally high quality Auto paint and RW paid for it. Still beautiful after 3 years. If you can't get RW to pay for it see John At Johnson's Fiberglass and paint....He will give you a great deal and a great job.

tjhome20@iowatelecom.net · 08-13-2016, 03:58 PM

Thanks for your response. We are from Iowa and the dealer that sold it originally will repaint it. They really tried to get Redwood to stand behind it and they wouldn't. It was 2 years old and supposedly if the first owner would have requested it to be repainted they would have. We purchased the 7 year extended warranty and Redwood wont even give us a new decal to put on it when we get it repainted! When we bought this unit it had never been slept in as it was a replacement for a unit that had an electrical fire. I guess it isnt very good advertising for Redwood sitting at our beautiful campground with the front end all faded! This is our first attempt at camping. If we like it and continue camping we will be looking for a different vendor if this is all the better Redwood's warranty is.

Rick and Mindy · 08-13-2016, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake and Theda

We have the same problem. We purchased a 2013 36rl from a private party. They had an electrical fire in their original redwood. After quite a hassle, redwood replaced it with a new redwood. They never slept in it as they had already purchased a new one thinking they would get a cash settlement from redwood. So we bought what we thought was a excellent camper only to find out when we parked it in an rv park, we are the only Redwood there and out of 150 campers ours is the only one showing fade! Redwood won't cover it under our 7 year warranty as we were not the original owner! they basically told us if we would have lied and given the first owners name, they would have covered a new paint job! too bad we didn't know that before we called! It is a shame that with a rv over $100000, they won't do anything!

I don't understand what the 7 year extended warranty has to do with Redwood. I don't think you purchased that from Redwood, I think that is a dealer thing but, regardless of that, Redwood does allow a second owner to transfer the original warranty with a fee. Not sure exactly when your 2 year warranty ended but the dealer should've offered that if it was still within the2 years, then Redwood should've covered it. There were many variables in your case that would've had to fall in line to get Redwood to cover the paint job under warranty but it sounds to me like the selling dealer was more interested in selling you an aftermarket warranty Hope you get the results you want.

RollsRoyce · 08-13-2016, 06:53 PM

Ask the original owner if they will apply for the warranty repaint...maybe they will honor it or them.

RollsRoyce · 08-13-2016, 06:58 PM

Dealers don't have their own paint shops they add a fee for handling and farm out the work... Find out who they use and see if that company will offer you a good deal to repaint.

Dro67 · 11-30-2016, 06:02 PM

Just got off the phone with RW and they won't help at all with the cost of repainting our faded RV. We are 8 months out of warranty. Very disappointed since they were fully aware of the problem with the gel coat and subsequently have discontinued using it!!! Ours didn't really get bad until about 6 months ago so it wouldn't have helped I guess if we had called sooner. To me this is just bad PR and sours you from upgrading your unit to another Redwood. Guss I'll be shopping SOB..

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