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Old 12-13-2016, 11:50 PM   #21
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I personally don't think I would remove the entire panel out the front, as doing so may disturb the wiring connections even more. It's not a picnic to access from the back, but I believe it will cause fewer oops with the wiring connections.
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Old 12-13-2016, 11:58 PM   #22
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I guess what you handle yourself is based on your experience and knowledge. If it is above what you can do or are willing to try, call a tech. They will do it for you, but for a hefty fee. I personally have removed mine and know that I can repair almost everything in/on my Redwood. Most people don't own torque wrenches or torque screwdrivers either. I do. Go according to your comfort level.

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Old 12-14-2016, 01:36 AM   #23
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Its not a bad idea to go through the panel and tight screws either - Redwood did an A+ job in my opinion, but boy did they botch that Montana. Before I could even remove the panel, I had to tighten screws on breakers and on the 12V buss or the wires would have just fallen out. It was pathetic.

I won't mention the water fittings, but if you have ever watched the fountains in front of the Bellagio in Las Vegas, you get the idea.
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:28 AM   #24
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Royce, had same issue on my RL and turned out to be one wire that fell out of the wire nut and that shut off the whole bank in Living room. Just started taking down fixtures and checking each wire nut till I found it.
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Brad, there were 6 lights in this system that were out. Removed cover by cover 1st three on the fridge side of the room and bumped each bulb a few times and those all came on,. When going to the opposite side bumped all 3 and only the center one came on. The one closest to the door had a broken element and the other end Im not sure yet. Tomorrow I am going to replace bulbs in those 2 units and see where I stand...Anyone no the part number on these bulbs or wattage. They are the standard not LED ones.
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:56 AM   #26
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Sounds like you are on the right track Royce - check those wire nuts up there too.

Bulb size - hmmm, I used to know, but I'm afraid I may steer you wrong now. They are a T3 G4 2 pin base, and I believe the large diameter are 20W and the small diameter 10W, but check me.

I need to relearn, as I still have them in the MH.
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Old 12-14-2016, 03:01 AM   #27
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That is what I love about our forum. So much intelligent information and given freely to help our brothers and sisters in the RV travel world. Thanks for all your help. All of you. Maybe tomorrow I'll be able to tell you problem fixed.
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Old 12-14-2016, 04:21 AM   #28
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The ceiling Halogens are 20w. Cabinets are 10w
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Those Halogens were the first things we changed out on our '12 RL
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Me too. Right after my first dry camping weekend at the beach.
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I changed out all the halogens in the bedroom, to lessen heat generation, but only one large halogen in the living area and absolutely none of the smaller halogens have failed in 3 1/2 years of use.
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Me too. Right after my first dry camping weekend at the beach.
I think I can guess at the rest of the story.
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I think I can guess at the rest of the story.
Ya, I learned that quick. 38 lights on while loading in front of the house gave me about 2-1/2 hours of both batteries, then it was lights out, not enough to bring in the slides. I never did change to LED though. I just never got around to it.
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We don't dry camp so still have all halogen & have only changed 3 in 4 years, too expensive to change to LEDS.
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I didn't like listening to the converter cooling fan running every time I turned on the Living Room lites, not to mention the heat generated by them.
Go into a unit, any brand, at an RV show that has all the halogens on and no AC running, it's like a sauna.
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I didn't like listening to the converter cooling fan running every time I turned on the Living Room lites, not to mention the heat generated by them.
Go into a unit, any brand, at an RV show that has all the halogens on and no AC running, it's like a sauna.
I would agree, I changed from Halogens to LEDs on my last SOB 5th Wheel due to the current load and heat generated by the Halogens.
When staying in the Southeast during the summer, you do not want anything generating unnecessary heat for the A/C to cool off.
Love the LEDs that came in my Redwood, have had a couple fail in my 2 1/2 years of fulltime use but other than that they are great.
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What all changes when you go to LED's..Just the bulbs and where is the most reasonably priced quality units and their part numbers
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Just the bulbs Royce. I got all of mine from Amazon. Not at the Coach right now but will be next week. I'll get the brand and part numbers. The ones I used are a nice white, not yellow at all and weren't a ton of money. I changed all but the ones over the island.
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What all changes when you go to LED's..Just the bulbs and where is the most reasonably priced quality units and their part numbers
Nothing to change other than the lamps if you have the older G4 dual pin lamps. I had several of the older style hologen lamps fail during the first 18 months of owning our 2012 RW 36RL. Started buying replacement LED lamps from M4Products and have been very pleased. I have only had one fail in 4 years since. The following link will get you to their site :

G4 Double Pin Retrofit LED Lights

For the 20 watt, I prefer the natural white Elite Series, but, they have warm white and cool white also.

The 20 watt equivalent is: G4-18-5630-SIDE-NW Natural White Elite Series G4 / T3 Samsung 5630 LEDs Side Pins to replace 20w Halogen

For the 10 watt equivalent, I use: G4-9-5630-SIDE-NW Natural White Elite Series G4 / T3 Samsung 5630 LEDs Side Pins to replace 10w Halogen

I think they are having an additional discount that they only do at this time of year, so, check out their site.

Hope this helps.
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Old 12-17-2016, 04:29 PM   #40
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i been buyin 20 watt halogen bulbs from home depot , landscape light bulb they r a exact match plug right in there is a 10 watter too

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in a 2 pack 4 bucks keep a few packs on hand all is well everything lights up


they go out and i put a fresh one in working again ive replaced 8 or 10 of them

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