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08-19-2015, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave&Ginny
That's refreshing! Funny though that Lipert had rejected any suggestion in the past about changing out their plastic bushings. It seems that nothing in the RV industry changes unless it's forced.
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Dave, please. It's Falcon, not Lippert. Geez. 
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08-19-2015, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dogs
Or at least offer an independant suspension option. ...
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It's been suggested many times. We've been told in the past that offering MorRyde as an option was detrimental to Redwood's relationship with Lippert. I mean Falcon.
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08-19-2015, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dogs
I don't think the axle rating would have any effect. I think it's more about measurements and I'd bet that if you called MorRyde you would find they have one that fits.
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Ya, I'm just got off what Rob said in his thread http://www.redwoodowners.com/forums/...od-3028-6.html
I'll have to investigate some more.
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08-19-2015, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by atom ant
Good old Lippert!
Are you doing the 4000? I don't think it fits mine with 8k axles.
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You too, AA? 
It's Falcon. We really have to get it straight. 
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"Life is too short to take the same road twice"
Vaughan and Tracy, and our 4-legged fur babies: Zeus, Millie, Murphy and Miles, traveling happily in Tilda, our 2013 RW 36RL.
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08-19-2015, 10:09 PM
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I originally ordered shackles from a RW dealer, when they arrived they were about twice as thick as original, but only half as thick as MR, I returned them & ordered MR. Also had to pay for each wet bolt & bushing separately, would've cost twice as much. That's probably what you'll get from Liperts kit!
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08-19-2015, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WarrenR
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Unfortunately for my wife and I we are learning about these weak points after the purchase. And apparently the previous owner didn't have issues since nothing has been changed or improved on the RV which either means he truly had no issues, or he ignored it until he couldn't any longer and traded it rather than repair/replace it which makes the problem mine. But we do not regret the purchase, it's just figuring out how and when to address these issues.
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You shouldn't regret your purchase, Warren. Redwoods are beautiful and we love ours. Just stay informed and alert and you'll do just fine.
Many happy trails ahead for you and the Mrs.!
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Vaughan and Tracy, and our 4-legged fur babies: Zeus, Millie, Murphy and Miles, traveling happily in Tilda, our 2013 RW 36RL.
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08-19-2015, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Piper Guy's Gal
You too, AA?
It's Falcon. We really have to get it straight. |
Oops - you're right!
I had to go back and "get wise" 
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08-19-2015, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dogs
I don't think the axle rating would have any effect. I think it's more about measurements and I'd bet that if you called MorRyde you would find they have one that fits. I'm waiting to see how Joe's mods work. Still waiting to hear from Redwood if and when an HD wet bolt kit might be available through them as I understand they will soon come standard on Redwoods. They will be lippert parts of course.
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Dexter also makes heavy duty wet bolt /shackle /bronze bushing kits.
http://www.dexteraxle.com/inc/sdetail/18100
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08-19-2015, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by atom ant
Oops - you're right!
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Yup shows you right there falcon is different than LCI
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08-19-2015, 11:42 PM
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Now I am really confused... Everyone I chat with tells me I need a 33" kit for the sre4000.. Mor/ryde is telling me 35".. They even gave me instructions to do measuring..I did that and came up with 61".. That equates to 35" wheelbase ???????
Is it as easy as taking the level up system and having the trailer sitting on the truck ,mat that point measure center of wheel to center of wheel ??
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08-19-2015, 11:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dogs
I don't think the axle rating would have any effect. I think it's more about measurements and I'd bet that if you called MorRyde you would find they have one that fits. I'm waiting to see how Joe's mods work. Still waiting to hear from Redwood if and when an HD wet bolt kit might be available through them as I understand they will soon come standard on Redwoods. They will be lippert parts of course.
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I looked up the qualification sheet- looks like the 8k spring pack doesn't work with the Mor-ryde 4000 anymore than it did with the Trailair equaflex on my factory install 
The SRE/4000 is designed for a 1 3/4" wide double eye (not slipper style) leaf spring and will NOT work with an 8k axle spring pack (i.e. 7 leafs in which the second leaf down from the top is the same length as the top leaf).
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08-20-2015, 12:00 AM
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Install the centerpoint it will work with 7 & 8K axles not much more tan equiflex. Or have someone torch 2 " off the second spring so it will work. This would not affect the spring pack.
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08-20-2015, 12:19 AM
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I don't see where centerpoint would be any different - in fact maybe worse. Besides, its a Lippert component....won't work on Falcon
Good thought on the spring shortening though. I did have a trailer shop offer to taper them.
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08-20-2015, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ford truck guy
Now I am really confused... Everyone I chat with tells me I need a 33" kit for the sre4000.. Mor/ryde is telling me 35".. They even gave me instructions to do measuring..I did that and came up with 61".. That equates to 35" wheelbase ???????
Is it as easy as taking the level up system and having the trailer sitting on the truck ,mat that point measure center of wheel to center of wheel ??
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I am installing the SRE 4000, 33 inch kit on my 2012 36RL along with the Heavy Duty Shackle Kit. Not an easy job, but, so far, so good.
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08-20-2015, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by hoosierguy
I am installing the SRE 4000, 33 inch kit on my 2012 36RL along with the Heavy Duty Shackle Kit. Not an easy job, but, so far, so good.
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How did you figure out you needed the 33" kit? Was it as easy as measuring the wheels while the level up was not active ??
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08-20-2015, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ford truck guy
As long as RW is in bed with Lippert ,they will not offer any Mor/ryde parts as add-ones... When I was researching my HD shackles, I had a few questions so I called RW who referred me to customer service,.. They called me back after calling Lippert with this response...:
Per Lippert they suggest using the Lippert system only , as any other mfg parts MAY void the warranty of the axle and frames..?? Upgrading = voiding??
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That's a problem when a RV manufacture is tied to one supplier. There's no hope for improvement because there's no competition for that RV brand.
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08-20-2015, 04:31 AM
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When I put the MORRyde IS on the coach at about a year old I knew I was voiding Lipperts frame warranty as I did it. Really didn't care. I figured MorRyde warranty would cover their part and my extended coverage would do anything else.
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08-20-2015, 04:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by atom ant
I don't see where centerpoint would be any different - in fact maybe worse. Besides, its a Lippert component....won't work on Falcon
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Tapering would be a much better choice than shortening. The second long leaf gives support to the ends of the main leaf on the heavier spring pack.
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08-20-2015, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Ford truck guy
How did you figure out you needed the 33" kit? Was it as easy as measuring the wheels while the level up was not active ??
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I measured mine to be 35 inches.
Mark
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08-20-2015, 12:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piper guy
When I put the MORRyde IS on the coach at about a year old I knew I was voiding Lipperts frame warranty as I did it. Really didn't care. I figured MorRyde warranty would cover their part and my extended coverage would do anything else.
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Lippert denies all warranty claims anyway so why worry about voiding it.
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