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Old 08-19-2015, 09:58 PM   #41
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That's refreshing! Funny though that Lipert had rejected any suggestion in the past about changing out their plastic bushings. It seems that nothing in the RV industry changes unless it's forced.
Dave, please. It's Falcon, not Lippert. Geez.
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Old 08-19-2015, 10:03 PM   #42
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Or at least offer an independant suspension option. ...
It's been suggested many times. We've been told in the past that offering MorRyde as an option was detrimental to Redwood's relationship with Lippert. I mean Falcon.
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Old 08-19-2015, 10:03 PM   #43
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I don't think the axle rating would have any effect. I think it's more about measurements and I'd bet that if you called MorRyde you would find they have one that fits.
Ya, I'm just got off what Rob said in his thread http://www.redwoodowners.com/forums/...od-3028-6.html

I'll have to investigate some more.
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Old 08-19-2015, 10:05 PM   #44
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Good old Lippert!

Are you doing the 4000? I don't think it fits mine with 8k axles.
You too, AA?

It's Falcon. We really have to get it straight.
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Old 08-19-2015, 10:09 PM   #45
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I originally ordered shackles from a RW dealer, when they arrived they were about twice as thick as original, but only half as thick as MR, I returned them & ordered MR. Also had to pay for each wet bolt & bushing separately, would've cost twice as much. That's probably what you'll get from Liperts kit!
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Old 08-19-2015, 10:09 PM   #46
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Unfortunately for my wife and I we are learning about these weak points after the purchase. And apparently the previous owner didn't have issues since nothing has been changed or improved on the RV which either means he truly had no issues, or he ignored it until he couldn't any longer and traded it rather than repair/replace it which makes the problem mine. But we do not regret the purchase, it's just figuring out how and when to address these issues.
You shouldn't regret your purchase, Warren. Redwoods are beautiful and we love ours. Just stay informed and alert and you'll do just fine.

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You too, AA?

It's Falcon. We really have to get it straight.
Oops - you're right!

I had to go back and "get wise"
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I don't think the axle rating would have any effect. I think it's more about measurements and I'd bet that if you called MorRyde you would find they have one that fits. I'm waiting to see how Joe's mods work. Still waiting to hear from Redwood if and when an HD wet bolt kit might be available through them as I understand they will soon come standard on Redwoods. They will be lippert parts of course.
Dexter also makes heavy duty wet bolt /shackle /bronze bushing kits.

http://www.dexteraxle.com/inc/sdetail/18100
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Oops - you're right!

I had to go back and "get wise"
Yup shows you right there falcon is different than LCI
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Now I am really confused... Everyone I chat with tells me I need a 33" kit for the sre4000.. Mor/ryde is telling me 35".. They even gave me instructions to do measuring..I did that and came up with 61".. That equates to 35" wheelbase ???????
Is it as easy as taking the level up system and having the trailer sitting on the truck ,mat that point measure center of wheel to center of wheel ??
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I don't think the axle rating would have any effect. I think it's more about measurements and I'd bet that if you called MorRyde you would find they have one that fits. I'm waiting to see how Joe's mods work. Still waiting to hear from Redwood if and when an HD wet bolt kit might be available through them as I understand they will soon come standard on Redwoods. They will be lippert parts of course.
I looked up the qualification sheet- looks like the 8k spring pack doesn't work with the Mor-ryde 4000 anymore than it did with the Trailair equaflex on my factory install

The SRE/4000 is designed for a 1 3/4" wide double eye (not slipper style) leaf spring and will NOT work with an 8k axle spring pack (i.e. 7 leafs in which the second leaf down from the top is the same length as the top leaf).
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Install the centerpoint it will work with 7 & 8K axles not much more tan equiflex. Or have someone torch 2 " off the second spring so it will work. This would not affect the spring pack.
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I don't see where centerpoint would be any different - in fact maybe worse. Besides, its a Lippert component....won't work on Falcon

Good thought on the spring shortening though. I did have a trailer shop offer to taper them.
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Now I am really confused... Everyone I chat with tells me I need a 33" kit for the sre4000.. Mor/ryde is telling me 35".. They even gave me instructions to do measuring..I did that and came up with 61".. That equates to 35" wheelbase ???????
Is it as easy as taking the level up system and having the trailer sitting on the truck ,mat that point measure center of wheel to center of wheel ??
I am installing the SRE 4000, 33 inch kit on my 2012 36RL along with the Heavy Duty Shackle Kit. Not an easy job, but, so far, so good.
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I am installing the SRE 4000, 33 inch kit on my 2012 36RL along with the Heavy Duty Shackle Kit. Not an easy job, but, so far, so good.
How did you figure out you needed the 33" kit? Was it as easy as measuring the wheels while the level up was not active ??
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As long as RW is in bed with Lippert ,they will not offer any Mor/ryde parts as add-ones... When I was researching my HD shackles, I had a few questions so I called RW who referred me to customer service,.. They called me back after calling Lippert with this response...:
Per Lippert they suggest using the Lippert system only , as any other mfg parts MAY void the warranty of the axle and frames..?? Upgrading = voiding??
Anyway , I was always accused of not being a good listener and went full steam ahead...

That's a problem when a RV manufacture is tied to one supplier. There's no hope for improvement because there's no competition for that RV brand.
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When I put the MORRyde IS on the coach at about a year old I knew I was voiding Lipperts frame warranty as I did it. Really didn't care. I figured MorRyde warranty would cover their part and my extended coverage would do anything else.
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I don't see where centerpoint would be any different - in fact maybe worse. Besides, its a Lippert component....won't work on Falcon

Good thought on the spring shortening though. I did have a trailer shop offer to taper them.
Tapering would be a much better choice than shortening. The second long leaf gives support to the ends of the main leaf on the heavier spring pack.

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How did you figure out you needed the 33" kit? Was it as easy as measuring the wheels while the level up was not active ??
I measured mine to be 35 inches.

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When I put the MORRyde IS on the coach at about a year old I knew I was voiding Lipperts frame warranty as I did it. Really didn't care. I figured MorRyde warranty would cover their part and my extended coverage would do anything else.
Lippert denies all warranty claims anyway so why worry about voiding it.
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