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Old 01-16-2015, 05:32 PM   #21
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Bolts missing on the caliper is serious stuff! Did the axle installer forget them or just leave them loose?
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:22 PM   #22
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They need to use grade 8 bolts and I don't think this is always happening. When I had IS installed all bolts broke on LR and had to ge back to Elkhart because axle bracket was bent. Mor/ryde replaced both axles and went to 8K.
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Old 01-17-2015, 03:08 AM   #23
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Bolts missing on the caliper is serious stuff! Did the axle installer forget them or just leave them loose?
I think the young fellow who was helping with the install didn't tighten them up, the owner of the installation place said he will pay for all expensed occurred.

As for the wiring problem I took everything I can think to check apart. It only happens when the slide is going out/in and the only place where wire could move is where the wires come up through the floor under the bed and I have checked every wire and can't duplicated the problem without the slide moving. Its sure got me?????
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Old 01-19-2015, 03:31 AM   #24
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Well I have taken everything apart I still for the life of me can't find out where the short is!!!! I can put a new fuse in and could be ok for a day or two or it could be just a few minutes. I do know that wiring in these rigs are a mess. I guess if I can get hold out until i get home then the next step will be to tear out the walls. Any thoughts would be appreciated.


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Old 01-29-2015, 04:30 AM   #25
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Just finished rebuilding my bearings and brake system on 7000 lb axles after 16000 miles.

4 Timken 14125A (made in USA) wheel bearings $51.60
4 Timken 25580 (made in USA)wheel bearings 50.76
4 Dexter 01003600 (made in USA) double lip seals 18.72
4 Dexter brake backing plate assemblies (made in USA) 331.80
Turn 4 drums (brake and magnet surfaces) 194.40
Labor 6 hrs

TOTAL $647.28

Cost of Peace of Mind PRICELESS!
Did you replace each bearing race as well? I received two of the Timken bearings today that I ordered and neither one of them came with the outer race. Looks like that has to be ordered separate?
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Old 01-29-2015, 02:12 PM   #26
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Yes- races and bearings are separate
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Ya,
I don't think you want to install a new bearing on the old race.
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Old 01-29-2015, 08:40 PM   #28
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I don't think you want to install a new bearing on the old race.
I don't want to. Whenever I bought bearings in the past for whatever project they came with the race. I didn't see where NW Snowbirds listed the the race p/n above so I was just curious if maybe someone forgot to pack them with the new bearings.
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As long as the race is in good shape without nicks, you should be all right.
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:26 PM   #30
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As long as the race is in good shape without nicks, you should be all right.
Agreed. Its not necessarily best practice but I've done in many times in the past if the race is in great shape. It can be a pain to remove a race if you don't have access to the right tools for the job.
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Agreed. Its not necessarily best practice but I've done in many times in the past if the race is in great shape. It can be a pain to remove a race if you don't have access to the right tools for the job.

If you're not swearing and drinking when you start........you will be when you get done. I tend to get the races flying across the room when I don't tap...tap..tap just right. Also throwing the hammer after the races as they roll out of reach of your bleeding fingers doesn't seem to work either.

So if you have a friend with a butterfly net standing close by ....it saves on the frustrations.
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I used the existing races. They were in good shape and are a non moving part. 2000 miles on replacements and no problems. The new Dexter brakes are also very much better than the OEM lipperts. Ready for new tires ordered for next week. Got 20,000 miles out of Goodyear Marathons. Upgrading to f load rated Carlisle's.
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Old 01-30-2015, 06:45 PM   #33
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Why not just bite the bullet and go for the G614?
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Just wondering if I went with the 8000 lb axles with disc brakes and redwoods have rated tires will that mean I get the good year h rated tires or Chinese nockoffs
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Just wondering if I went with the 8000 lb axles with disc brakes and redwoods have rated tires will that mean I get the good year h rated tires or Chinese nockoffs
If you are custom building a unit, the MSRP sheet states that the 8K axles includes GY "H" tires.

You can order the "H" tires without the axles also.


The Disc Brakes are a separate item.

This is from the 2015 MSRP sheet. Since the 2016's come out in April, the 2016 MSRP sheet may be different.
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Why not just bite the bullet and go for the G614?
Would depend on how heavily loaded he is. This is the lightest RW 5W there is and he just got 20K miles out of the death tires He just may have the one RW model that could get away with the "E tires" and the "F" would be a definite upgrade and a cheaper option than replacing everything with the G's. I think he just proved that with the miles he got on the original tires. It is rather interesting when you really study the weights of RW models of what little carrying capacity you have on those 42 foot models. Fill it up with LP and water and on those models and you better be upgrading axles and everything you can
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Would depend on how heavily loaded he is. This is the lightest RW 5W there is and he just got 20K miles out of the death tires He just may have the one RW model that could get away with the "E tires" and the "F" would be a definite upgrade and a cheaper option than replacing everything with the G's. I think he just proved that with the miles he got on the original tires. It is rather interesting when you really study the weights of RW models of what little carrying capacity you have on those 42 foot models. Fill it up with LP and water and on those models and you better be upgrading axles and everything you can
No, he was just lucky. Carlisle are death tires just like the Marathons regardless if they are F or E. I ask again, why not bite the bullet and go for the G614!
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Death tires! Ha,ha! Good one. Time will tell.
Loaded rig weighs 14,000 lbs and pin weight is 2900 lbs. that calculates to 2775 lbs per tire. Marathon are rated 3420 lbs load rating and new Carlisles are rated 3960lbs at 95 psi. No worries mate. Go Seahawks!
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Ya I know what your saying Snowbirds. I just don't have any faith in ST tires, regardless of what they rate them at. I'd rather play Russian Roulette - the chances are higher. But that's me.
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They still say ST on the side - it's not a matter of weight, it's a matter of chance.

Good luck anyway.
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