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Old 07-12-2014, 03:29 AM   #1
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Trailer Brakes

We would like to tow a third small ATV trailer behind our 38GK. My question is in reference to the trailer brakes. In Colorado If you tow a third trailer and it exceeds 2,000lbs then it is required to have trailer brakes. My 2012 Dodge Ram has the dedicated trailer brake for the 38GK but if I connect the ATV trailer to my tail lights on the 38GK what controls the ATV trailer brakes? Thanks for any suggestions. Jim
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Old 07-12-2014, 04:02 AM   #2
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Nothing, your rw pigtail will probably be a 4 wire conector and that's only lights...

only the 7 pin connector has brake signals, etc...
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Old 07-12-2014, 08:30 AM   #3
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Yep, need to run 7 pin wiring to the back.
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Thanks for the help. I can do the wiring and connectors but I guess another question would be do I need a second brake controller in the TV to control the ATV trailer?
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Old 07-12-2014, 04:07 PM   #5
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You won't need another controller, but the wire size for the brake and ground will need to be at least 10 gauge or larger, and I suggest a new run all the way from the pin box. If Redwood used smaller than 10 gauge, you will have too much voltage drop by the time you get to the back trailer passing through their wires.
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My plan, if it ever works out is to tow a Goldwing behind my Redwood using a "Swivel Wheel" tow system. The swivel wheel attaches to the rear of the fifth wheel and actually becomes part of your unit so you don't have a third pivot point. I think with that type of system you wouldn't need another set of brakes because the fifth wheel would have brakes. Am I wrong in thinking this way??
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Old 07-13-2014, 01:34 AM   #7
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Probably, not. Most states require brakes at 3,000 lb. GVWR.
1,000 lbs NY
1,500 lbs CA, NV, ID
2,000 lbs MS, OH, UT
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My plan, if it ever works out is to tow a Goldwing behind my Redwood using a "Swivel Wheel" tow system. The swivel wheel attaches to the rear of the fifth wheel and actually becomes part of your unit so you don't have a third pivot point. I think with that type of system you wouldn't need another set of brakes because the fifth wheel would have brakes. Am I wrong in thinking this way??
I believe you are correct. However I just saw an Idaho Tote at the gas station today and when he pulled away, wow does that add to the tail swing! I'm not sure the added rigid length on these enormous Redwoods would be desirable. I personally think I would rather pull a standard trailer.
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I too looked long and hard at those and I was concerned the current hitch on the back of the redwood would not hold it...

IIRC, it's only a 300lb rating for tongue weight...

do those have any articulation, i.e. up and down so that crests and dips would not be putting the full weight of the rv's rear on the hitch ? that's what stopped me from pulling the trigger...
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I too looked long and hard at those and I was concerned the current hitch on the back of the redwood would not hold it...

IIRC, it's only a 300lb rating for tongue weight...

do those have any articulation, i.e. up and down so that crests and dips would not be putting the full weight of the rv's rear on the hitch ? that's what stopped me from pulling the trigger...
There are several different manufacturers of similar items out there and I would have to investigate more to make sure they would not be a problem. I think some of the models place the wheels directly under the weight so there probably isn't the problem with the hitch weight but none of them are inexpensive so I would not want to make that jump without full review.
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