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Old 08-08-2014, 08:24 PM   #1
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Overweight trucks and accidents

I was going to post this on another thread but thought it would just muddy things up over there. All this talk about if your overweight and in an accident you could be in trouble has got me to thinking. Outside of the legal and moral dilemma's around travelling overweight, how exactly would a LEO be able to weigh your setup if you were in an accident? I'm assuming we're not talking minor fender benders here? I would assume our belongings would be all over the place and thus no accurate way to weigh.

Really just thinking out loud and wondered what other peoples thoughts were on this subject.
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I think the only time that would ever happen is if the other insurance company demanded it, and they would probably hire someone to figure out the weight by paperwork by including contents found, water capacity, etc. I don't think they would ever try to physically weigh it.

Other than that, I believe you take a chance on a routine check.
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I think the only time that would ever happen is if the other insurance company demanded it, and they would probably hire someone to figure out the weight by paperwork by including contents found, water capacity, etc. I don't think they would ever try to physically weigh it.

Other than that, I believe you take a chance on a routine check.
You're probably right. I just don't see logistically how it can be done at the scene of an accident. If you were obviously overweight that's a different story. I would imagine an F-150 pulling a Redwood would be pretty obvious to most folks, but when you start talking 250, 350, etc the water is pretty muddy. As we're learning some F-250's could conceivably, legally tow a Redwood in the right circumstances. Whether or not you should is obviously a hot topic all together and not one I intend to debate.
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I honestly think that if there was a death, and a sharp lawyer, all he would have to do is read the Gross weight rating of the trailer compared to the trailer rating specs for the truck, and if you are over, his work is done.

It would then become the trailer owners burden to start proving he traveled with no water and limited equipment to keep the trailer within the trucks GCWR. It would not be a fun task.
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I honestly think that if there was a death, and a sharp lawyer, all he would have to do is read the Gross weight rating of the trailer compared to the trailer rating specs for the truck, and if you are over, his work is done.

It would then become the trailer owners burden to start proving he traveled with no water and limited equipment to keep the trailer within the trucks GCWR. It would not be a fun task.
I would think the lawyer would have just as much responsibility proving your weight was at the GVWR especially if you show what the weight from the factory was as shown inside the fifth wheel.
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Agree that there are two viewpoints (maybe more )
but like Rick said, the weight sticker from the factory is good,
but a certified cat scale weight is the smart thing to do...
I keep a copy in the truck and scanned/emailed a copy to myself 'just in case'...
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I carry Cat scale certificate & while at a KOA park they offered a weighing at each wheel of TV & RW, so I have 2 forms of proof. I am under gross of vehicle with trailer, but just right at gross on the trailer.
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Agree that there are two viewpoints (maybe more )
but like Rick said, the weight sticker from the factory is good,
but a certified cat scale weight is the smart thing to do...
I keep a copy in the truck and scanned/emailed a copy to myself 'just in case'...
Understood but easily 95% of RV'ers don't have this. Think about what percentage of RV'ers are actually on the boards, then think about the percentage of that who actually weigh their vehicles.

As for proving your innocent, seriously doubt that'll be the case. The stickers on all Redwoods would show a weight that is less than any F250 of virtually any era is capable of towing. Only facts would matter in court, not speculation.
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:52 PM   #9
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They are kept plenty busy by the "obvious" over-weights, by this I mean: stickers. If the trailer is too big for the truck by specification. Plenty of people doing this, unfortunately. The dept of licensing has your vehicles GVWR in the system. They don't have to look at anything on the truck or trailer.
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Very true Todd
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