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Old 04-13-2017, 04:23 PM   #1
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MorRyde IS and Disc brake conversion

Just logged over 10K miles on my RW over the last 5 months traveling from WI to Texas to FL and back. Like most of you, we've hit our fair share of dips, bumps, bridge transitions and potholes along the interstates. Some states are better than others, but we've encountered some really terrible roads and construction at times. The gravity of the holes and disrepair are incredible and it makes me sick imagining the long term damage. I'm amazed sometimes by how well we've sustained the integrity of our unit, despite the volume of poor road conditions. Next week, I'm biting the bullet and having MorRyde install the IS and disc brake conversion. In addition, having my 2011 F-350 brake controller converted to communicate with the MorRyde disc brake receiver. Costing big bucks and hope it's worth it because of all the forums I've read have recommended it. It won't change the roads, but hopefully will help the encounter.
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Old 04-13-2017, 09:01 PM   #2
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Replacing the tires then upgrading the brakes to Disc brakes, and finally converting to the IS last year, each step gave more piece of mind. For that alone it was worth the price.
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Old 04-13-2017, 10:11 PM   #3
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You won't be sorry that you spent they big bucks... worth every cent for the piece of mind you get in return... I upgraded this fiver last June...
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Have almost 25k miles on the IS and Kodiak Disc. Will unequivocally state that I would never own another fifth wheel without both - it is that good. Whole rig stops like the truck alone does and the ride for the trailer is night and day.

Not sure on your 2011, but on my 2013 the setting isn't in trailer apps, it is in driver assist settings in the information center on the truck. Dig the manual out to find it. The disc will work with an electric setting but will have delay and you have to run higher gain.
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Old 04-14-2017, 09:48 PM   #5
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Ball park estimate about how much does this type of upgrade cost?
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Ball park estimate about how much does this type of upgrade cost?

For the 8K IS, and disc brakes would be right around $6,000.00 - $6,200.00 give or take
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Old 04-19-2017, 03:43 PM   #7
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conversion complete

Logged in over 250-300 miles since the conversion to MorRyde IS and disc brakes. The MorRyde company is very customer friendly, but at $1500 labor on a 12-14 hr. job, it's profitable too, not to mention the up-charging of the parts. Braking is improved, but not dramatically as many of you had testified. I had a Prodigy-3 brake controller installed in my 2011 truck to communicate with the newly installed hydraulic disc brake system beforehand and once hooked up to the 5th, I adjusted the gain to 10 and boost to 3 just to get any real satisfaction in braking differences. Before doing that, the braking felt the same. I was aware that there would be a delay in a reaction from foot peddle pressure to the brake caliper relay. I'm good with that and will continue to play with the controller. I generally travel about 62-63 mph on the open interstate. In summary, I guess I haven't felt the same exhilaration as those who crowed about the disc brakes, I know they're better and if we keep this unit for a longer period of time, they'll probably be a good investment.

At the same time, I can't really appreciate the IS at all. When I completed this most recent journey, I found our hanging bathroom mirror on the floor. We had traveled thousand's of miles before that with the conventional leaf spring/axle, and the mirror had never moved. So much for convincing my wife that this was a good investment. So many of you have embellished the IS, yet I can't see any real measurable differences, i.e., if you hit a hole or a dip, the pounding and movement of the 5th is the same regardless of suspensions. I guess time will tell, but for well over $6K on the IS/Disc brake conversion, I'm not convinced enough to encourage anyone else to make the investment.
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I believe that the main reason for making changes to everything below the frame was to prevent failures for the less then optimal stuff Redwood provided. From the tires, brakes and suspension. You will find lots of horror stories. Redwood has improved these items on later models, I think 2017. But for at least the 2015 and earlier, the undercarriage was woefully inadequate.
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Great discussion, thanks for the input. We are getting the system and brakes too in the fall. Not for the ride, our rides fine. We are simply overweight all the time and cannot tow with all of our stuff, and must have dead-empty tanks. Plus we have had our own fair share of shenanigans with the RIDICULOUS bushing system with the factory suspension which can be summed up thusly: JUNK.
It's a lot to spend, but for us it's more about the stuff that MIGHT Happen and less worry on the road. Thanks again, good stuff!
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Logged in over 250-300 miles since the conversion to MorRyde IS and disc brakes. The MorRyde company is very customer friendly, but at $1500 labor on a 12-14 hr. job, it's profitable too, not to mention the up-charging of the parts. Braking is improved, but not dramatically as many of you had testified. I had a Prodigy-3 brake controller installed in my 2011 truck to communicate with the newly installed hydraulic disc brake system beforehand and once hooked up to the 5th, I adjusted the gain to 10 and boost to 3 just to get any real satisfaction in braking differences. Before doing that, the braking felt the same. I was aware that there would be a delay in a reaction from foot peddle pressure to the brake caliper relay. I'm good with that and will continue to play with the controller. I generally travel about 62-63 mph on the open interstate. In summary, I guess I haven't felt the same exhilaration as those who crowed about the disc brakes, I know they're better and if we keep this unit for a longer period of time, they'll probably be a good investment.

At the same time, I can't really appreciate the IS at all. When I completed this most recent journey, I found our hanging bathroom mirror on the floor. We had traveled thousand's of miles before that with the conventional leaf spring/axle, and the mirror had never moved. So much for convincing my wife that this was a good investment. So many of you have embellished the IS, yet I can't see any real measurable differences, i.e., if you hit a hole or a dip, the pounding and movement of the 5th is the same regardless of suspensions. I guess time will tell, but for well over $6K on the IS/Disc brake conversion, I'm not convinced enough to encourage anyone else to make the investment.

Something seems really wrong relative to your disk brakes. I have a 2012 36RL and originally ordered the Kodiak Disk Brakes installed at the factory. It has a Carlisle actuator with CAM module. I also have the Prodigy P3 brake controller in my 2011 RAM 3500. With a setting of 7.0 to 7.5 the trailer does most of the braking. If I actuate the manual control on the P3 while moving 5 mph, the trailer/truck will stop abruptly within 1 to 1.5 seconds.

I would urge some additional trouble shooting of your system. You should be getting much better operation and braking than what you are describing.
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