Is anyone pulling w/short bed without a slider

**Dave&Ginny** · 03-18-2012, 01:33 PM

Is there anybody on this forum now pulling a Redwood with a short bed and without a slider?

KR2011 · 03-18-2012, 02:30 PM

Just get a bed stretcher and stretch it to a long box, problem solved

UNDRPSI · 03-18-2012, 06:33 PM

I dont know if they had a slider or not but I saw a Red and Black painted Redwood heading south on 93 in NH just N of the Hooksett tolls last thursday night with a Black Ford Short bed pulling it. Boy it looked PURDY!!!!

**Dave&Ginny** · 03-18-2012, 08:04 PM

Well my wife and I are kind of thinking that way. I know my truck is set up to pull the Redwood that I have ordered but it will be at it's limits sooo my wife is telling me to get rid if the truck (2011 F350 SRW 4x4 Lariet fully loaded) and get dually. I LOVE MY TRUCK and I'm not sure what to do. I know I'll take a bath on the truck even though it only has 30,000 miles on it.

I'm going to talk with a few dealers tomorrow and see how bad I'm going to get hurt.

KR2011 · 03-18-2012, 08:07 PM

You'll probably take a 10k to 20k hit good luck tomorrow.

John317 · 03-18-2012, 08:41 PM

Wow, it's not often that a man's wife tells him to go out and buy a new Dually!! Pinch yourself three times on the way to the dealer and do the deal before whatever she took wears off

lillyputz · 03-19-2012, 09:09 AM

I would keep the truck.

Lillyputz

RollsRoyce · 03-19-2012, 09:26 AM

Just because you have a rdually doesn't mean you have more tow capability...I am llooking at a dealer provided 2008 rv & trailer towing guide and believe it or not there is a 500 lb less tow capacity with the DRW....maybe because of the added suspension and wheel and tire weights....See if your dealer offers this brochureThis is one great brochure.....It gives information on weig ht distribution, backing, turning,braking,towing on hills,parking,accelerating and passing,driving weith an automatic transmission, driaving with speed control and much more..This is a great piece of literature. Ford's booklet Id is RV-VER8173-0807 found on back cover under the Ford logo Retailer Education and Training.

John317 · 03-19-2012, 09:32 AM

My attempt at humor above notwithstanding, I agree with Lillyputz. You already have the truck, try towing the rig first then see how you feel about how it tows. I have a shortbed and was told by Brian at Redwood that their delivery guys use shortbeds without sliders to deliver the units and they have no problems. So why not try it first before taking a big $$$ hit on trade-in.

KR2011 · 03-19-2012, 09:37 AM

All of the above is correct if you have the truck already try it first and then decide. The only real advantage to dual rear wheels is stability.

mhs4771 · 03-19-2012, 10:03 AM

A you're all missing the point. It's not some much the towing capacity, BUT the ability to carry the pin weight. The Dually will give you close to double load capacity, that's where 3/4 ton and 1 ton SRW truck fall short. Read in the fine print of many of those charts for the recommended max pin weight, you might be suprised at how low it is. I didn't look back to see which unit you're got on order, but many of the RW list a dry pin of 2500 to 3500, once loaded that means real world pin weights of 3000 to near 4000. Any of the big 3 have the pulling power and towing capacity, but the load capacity is the real problem, remember how much stuff do you have in the back of the truck, tool box, fifth wheel hitch, etc.

maggie · 03-19-2012, 10:05 AM

We pulled a carriage with a short bed and pull-rite hitch. When hubby experienced a blow out at slow speed he was sold on a dually as a must. We now have a long bed dually with a pull rite 20.5 hitch and are waiting to order Redwood next month. I am the one that wanted the 20.5 rull-rite. I refuced to go "light" on the hitch knowing value of truck and trailer. I wanted what I thought was the right fit

Dually is great except requires a learning curve. We park out further and the turn radias going forward is not the best in parking lots. I am still learning. It fits well in our 3 car garage if we pull in backwards diagonally. It takes the entire 3 car garage.
Hope to meet up with many of you in the future.

lillyputz · 03-19-2012, 11:42 AM

For what it's worth. we ordered the 36RE. total loaded weight 16,000lbs x 18% = pin weight of 2,880lbs. my swd Dodge is rated for 3,300lbs.

Lillyputz

lillyputz · 03-19-2012, 11:50 AM

I've seen a lot of dually's with fender damage. just have to be carefull.

Lillyputz

**Dave&Ginny** · 03-19-2012, 12:53 PM

The only difference between my F350 SRW and a F350 Dually is a cargo weight of 1090 lbs but there is more stability of having the extra set of tires.

Robin'n'Marian · 03-19-2012, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lillyputz

For what it's worth. we ordered the 36RE. total loaded weight 16,000lbs x 18% = pin weight of 2,880lbs. my swd Dodge is rated for 3,300lbs.

Lillyputz

Where did you get the 18% pin weight? My information has it at 21% which is a pin weight of 3360 if fully loaded.

RollsRoyce · 03-19-2012, 02:08 PM

Ford's trailer guide says between 15 and 25 % on F250 and F350

mhs4771 · 03-19-2012, 02:25 PM

Remember, those pin weights are before you start adding options like second AC, King Bed, Gen Prep or On Board Gen, Washer/Dryer, etc, etc. Difference between dry and real world can be from 500 to 1000 lbs more. We don't have a Gen or Gen prep in our Montana but we do have the 2nd and Combo Washer Dryer and our actual pin weight is 700 lbs more than spec'd (we've been weighted so the number is accurate)

**Dave&Ginny** · 03-19-2012, 04:58 PM

My truck (2011 F350 SRW crew cab 4x4)has the 7000lb rear axle even though my tires can carry 7500 (3750 each), overall according to my paperwork it has the 11500 GVW rating. I love my truck and I did receive a call from a dealer today wanting to trade it but I'd be loosing to do it. So I think I'll keep what I have but I might consider sending her out to a custom shop and turn it into a dually with a tow bed later in the year.

Until then, I'll get my trailer around the second week of April and on the way home I'll scale it out. once I scale it I'll know if I need to add some bags to it or not as long as I don't exceed my tires weights.

**Dave&Ginny** · 03-19-2012, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lillyputz

For what it's worth. we ordered the 36RE. total loaded weight 16,000lbs x 18% = pin weight of 2,880lbs. my swd Dodge is rated for 3,300lbs.

Lillyputz

I'm well within the limits of my truck too until I add the weight of my hitch, my extra fuel tank and my wife and I. Then I get real close (I'll make her ride in the trailer) LOL that way she can fix me dinner. At least I know my tires are rated higher than my truck so they shouldn't blow.

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