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Old 11-08-2015, 05:11 PM   #1
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Wow, if only Redwood would do this - they would be ahead of their game! Hats off to Winnebago! From electrical diagrams to service tips! Very handsome..

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The Winnebago company is very good at keeping everything very consistent and they work with their owners. Each cabinet door has it's own part number so they can be easily replaced regardless of their age. Overall they put out a pretty solid unit but there's been several complaints about wood quality in the cabinets.
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Old 11-08-2015, 09:37 PM   #3
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I just figured the drawings and schematics would go a long way to staying happy for a guy that doesn't mind fixing a few things himself. Saves a ton of tracing out things when you don't have the diagrams.

Pretty comprehensive drawings too looks like.
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I'm sure it's a "cultural" thing. RW wants/needs to protect its dealer network. More money in the dealers' pocket. And I'm sure they feel there's some proprietary element to the information...even though the likelihood of that is remote.
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These things are not rocket science follow the schematics every nail every plug box every wire goes in the same place every time
It's amazing how we have been doing this in the construction industry for years and by golly it works. KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID
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Shane, that's the problem here. While the Outlet boxes may be put in the same place, the wires getting there depend on who happens to put them in that day. The same goes for the plumbing, just about no two units are plumbed the same.
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I just shake my head as the amount of lost revenue these outfits have do to there incompetence it's unbelievable
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And I'm sure they feel there's some proprietary element to the information...even though the likelihood of that is remote.
That's exactly it, as I've heard it direct from the GM. That is why all the drawings were pulled from the other site.

I like Winnebago's approach better. They are as old a company as I am, and I don't see where they have been hurt much with the open architecture approach. Maybe there are Winnebago clones out there, but it only makes the industry bigger and better.

With Redwoods approach - I have to figure it out myself, or take to a Dealer that knows less about it than I do who then gives it to a technician that is watching the clock more than what he is doing.

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These things are not rocket science follow the schematics every nail every plug box every wire goes in the same place every time
It's amazing how we have been doing this in the construction industry for years and by golly it works. KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID
Sure they "ain't rocket science" Shane, but why spend the time groping in the dark to first figure out how they did it so you can then fix it, when you shouldn't really have to. I have complete manuals, or access to complete manuals, for every vehicle and appliance I own, except for the Redwood.
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That's exactly it, as I've heard it direct from the GM. That is why all the drawings were pulled from the other site.

I like Winnebago's approach better. They are as old a company as I am, and I don't see where they have been hurt much with the open architecture approach. Maybe there are Winnebago clones out there, but it only makes the industry bigger and better.

With Redwoods approach - I have to figure it out myself, or take to a Dealer that knows less about it than I do who then gives it to a technician that is watching the clock more than what he is doing.



Sure they "ain't rocket science" Shane, but why spend the time groping in the dark to first figure out how they did it so you can then fix it, when you shouldn't really have to. I have complete manuals, or access to complete manuals, for every vehicle and appliance I own, except for the Redwood.

By sharing drawings they have to make sure that they build each one the same. By not sharing drawings they don't have to worry about someone telling them that they didn't build it to their own specs. This gives them more flexibility.
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That's exactly what I was going to say Dave! IF they have drawings that the assemblers use apparently it just a suggestion cause they're going to do it however they want.
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