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Old 11-06-2017, 11:40 PM   #1
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RV Industry Death Spiral

http://rvdailyreport.com/opinion/opinion-the-rv-industry-death-spiral-part-1/
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:47 AM   #2
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Just proves - ANYBODY can publish themselves on the internet. The only one in denial is Mr. Gerber, but what would you expect? He was his own self proclaimed expert on RVs 15 years before he even owned an RV? I've been listening to the "spiral down" nonsense for decades, yet it only spirals up.
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Sales are up but is quality? I have been very fortunate to have very few issues with my Redwood and the issues I had were not manufacturing issues. That isn’t true for many who purchase an RV which is the point Mr Gerber makes. He also makes the point that it is difficult to get service after purchase. Manufacturers don’t want to deal with the issues. They want the dealer to fix the problem. Dealers are stuck fixing issues that should not have left the factory. Dealers are not equipped to handle all of the repairs from new and older RVs. I am taking my Redwood in today to have a Schintech motor replaced. I made the appointment in September.
Maybe you see things I don’t. You have been RVing a lot longer than me. I hope you are right.
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Old 11-07-2017, 04:28 PM   #4
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Oh I'm not saying it is a good thing. Quality is poor, Dealerships dodge the bullet, and the factories don't care. My point is, the industry has been that way for decades before Mr. Gerber ever starting writing about it, so any profoundness he has to think it is a bubble about to burst or a spiraling sink hole is just funny. The market survives and grows........ except for those no longer with us that gambled on trying to produce a reputable high quality product such as Teton, Carriage, Monaco, to name a few.
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I see your point. Thanks.
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With record sales/income in the rv industry producing such poor quality products, if I owned a business I'd welcome that kind of "Death Spiral".
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We agree with Atom Ant... We laugh and call Gerber Mr. Grumpy. His articles are always sour and surly, he complains loudly about all aspects of full timing, and constantly whines about the reality of it. We wonder: WHY does he associate himself with the industry that he hates so much??? Brad is right, it has ALWAYS been this way, and is not likely to change until they start with lemon laws that apply to RV's (as of now they do not). That will never happen because the RV lobby keeps those skids well greased. There are nearly NO organizations that represent the RVer: They all represent manufacturers and dealers and their interests, which ARE: Keep you buying new RV's because your 4 year old RV is a piece of junk.
We have taken the opinion that if the RV has a reasonable foundation, and you spend enough money on fixing and upgrades, you may end up with something worth having. We are trying this with our RW. So far, so good. I shudder at the thought of buying a NEW RV and starting over with all the problems. HORRIFYING. Still, we have spent a TON of scratch and would ***NEVER*** be able to come close to selling it for even a large loss. It's a little scary.

We have replaced and fixed so much that is like we have rebuilt it. But, it feels good now, and we feel confident that we have mitigated a lot of issues. There will still be issues, but that's just life in the RV lane. WE LOVE being full time and this is the cost.
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I shudder at the thought of buying a NEW RV and starting over with all the problems. HORRIFYING. Still, we have spent a TON of scratch and would ***NEVER*** be able to come close to selling it for even a large loss. It's a little scary.
X2 ... Would hate to put our RW on the market right now and that's without some of the higher end upgrades that many folks have made.
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Yes, if we ever did decide to upgrade, it would have to be to a special buyer who could appreciate the upgrades a little. We have made pro-active changes that prevented disasters before they happened, largely due to this forum bringing them to everyone's attention, like the problem with the washer hoses being poorly connected under the bed... it's so generous when everyone takes some time to share a weakness or problem they encountered. So many benefit.
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Well I guess I stepped on a land mine by posting Mr Gerbers article. My wife and I are rookies at full timing with this our first year so if I find other land mines please excuse. :-)
I think I have posted before but will say again we have been very fortunate to have had minimal problems with our RW. We couldn’t be happier. I read and have spoken to so many others who have lived through and are living through major and minor issues that I wonder if there isn’t a way to force industry change. Just wondering out loud.
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