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Old 12-16-2016, 11:21 PM   #1
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I guess I need to smell that diesel exhaust

Since I got rid of the Redwood (The Beauty) I also eliminated the F350 (The Beast) and for the last year I've had the 2015 Z71 Chevy. It's a good truck, and a good toad but.......I sure miss the F350.

I couldn't help myself and I started looking at trucks again. Ford is off the table because in order to be used as a "Toad" the truck has to have the manual transfer-case shift on the floor. The trim packages I like (leather buckets with sunroof) usually don't have this configuration. Ram on the other hand has an easy set up for towing flat. So I guess I'm looking at the Ram now. I found a 2500 Laramie mega-cab that looks pretty good in black with a little cummins under the hood. Now I just have to beat up the dealer a little and eat a little crow
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Old 12-17-2016, 12:24 AM   #2
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You can tow the F150! I'm thinking about that myself.


Four-wheel Drive Vehicles




You can only tow a four-wheel drive vehicle with all wheels on the ground by placing the transfer case in its neutral position and engaging the four-wheel-down towing feature. Perform the steps outlined in the following section after positioning your vehicle behind the tow vehicle and properly securing them together.




Note: Make sure you properly secure your
vehicle to the tow vehicle.


Four-wheel-down Towing


1. Put the ignition in the on position, but do not start the engine. If your vehicle has an ignition key, turn the key to on.


If your vehicle has intelligent access,


press the engine START/STOP button
once without pressing the brake pedal.


2. Press and hold the brake pedal.


3. Rotate the four-wheel drive switch to
2H.


4. Shift the transmission to position N.


5. Rotate the four-wheel drive switch


from 2H to 4L and back to 2H five
times within seven seconds.


Actually, I wonder if you can tow that Navigator as well.
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Old 12-17-2016, 01:18 AM   #3
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Dave, I have the Ram Eco, supposed to be flat towable with the neutral transfer case. Was thinking about towing it when I retire and move up to a DP.
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Old 12-17-2016, 05:10 AM   #4
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You can tow the F150! I'm thinking about that myself.


Four-wheel Drive Vehicles




You can only tow a four-wheel drive vehicle with all wheels on the ground by placing the transfer case in its neutral position and engaging the four-wheel-down towing feature. Perform the steps outlined in the following section after positioning your vehicle behind the tow vehicle and properly securing them together.




Note: Make sure you properly secure your
vehicle to the tow vehicle.





Four-wheel-down Towing


1. Put the ignition in the on position, but do not start the engine. If your vehicle has an ignition key, turn the key to on.


If your vehicle has intelligent access,


press the engine START/STOP button
once without pressing the brake pedal.


2. Press and hold the brake pedal.


3. Rotate the four-wheel drive switch to
2H.


4. Shift the transmission to position N.


5. Rotate the four-wheel drive switch


from 2H to 4L and back to 2H five
times within seven seconds.


Actually, I wonder if you can tow that Navigator as well.
But it has to have a manual transfer case and I can't find any F150 with the equipment I want with a manual transfer case.
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Old 12-17-2016, 05:12 AM   #5
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Dave, I have the Ram Eco, supposed to be flat towable with the neutral transfer case. Was thinking about towing it when I retire and move up to a DP.
I'm going to seriously look at them next week after all the Christmas presents are bought.
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But it has to have a manual transfer case and I can't find any F150 with the equipment I want with a manual transfer case.
No, you're not reading it.

It is an electronic sequence using the ignition and the ELECTRIC engagement switch for 4X4, and when done the dash lights up with "NEUTRAL TOW ENABLED". Any F150 works, regardless of KR, Lariat, etc. There is another sequence to disable it, and the message center with say "NEUTRAL TOW DISABLED".


Here is a sample manual - it is under TOWING/TOWING THE VEHICLE ON FOUR WHEELS.


http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Fo...US_09_2014.pdf


Unfortunately, our Expedition is one of the few years that can't bet towed that way. Our transfer case has the 4A, or auto.
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The wife slaps me when I pout passing a nice Platinum 350
And while we still use the Jeep Wrangler (it's a fun lil runabout but rough) we started researching and I was surprised to find that our 6 seat all wheel drive, 2013 Explorer Sport can be towed four down as many of the newer AWD or 4WD fords can be... it's primarily the front wheel drive one that can't be.

BUT, I am starting to really like that cummins diesel in the rv after 20 years of Ford diesels.
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The wife slaps me when I pout passing a nice Platinum 350
And while we still use the Jeep Wrangler (it's a fun lil runabout but rough) we started researching and I was surprised to find that our 6 seat all wheel drive, 2013 Explorer Sport can be towed four down as many of the newer AWD or 4WD fords can be... it's primarily the front wheel drive one that can't be.

BUT, I am starting to really like that cummins diesel in the rv after 20 years of Ford diesels.
I hear you there! I miss seeing that big beast in the garage, and every once in a while I catch one on the highway and my heart aches. Ironically it was the highway where I hated it the most - slap-slap-slap.

That happens when I see our Redwood on the screen saver too!

But I do like the Class A life. Debating getting a new 4 dr wrangler, or keep mine and get a F150 to tow.
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Brad - keep yours and get the F150.
One of the reasons I bought the Focus was that Ford approves it 4-down either manual or auto. There is a sequence you go through with the shifter and key positions and the display says "trans in tow mode". At that point you disconnect the batt positive and you're ready. Roadmasterinc makes a remote disconnect and I have the SMI wired in ahead of the disconnect solenoid with a charge line from the coach. Hit 2 switches and we're ready.
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While Christmas shopping we drove Dodge dealership and we had to stop and look. The mega-cab is off the table because the seats won't fold, and we need a flat surface in the back seat area. We did look at a "Limited" 2500 and it was pretty nice. Shifting the transfer case is really easy compared to the chevy. Next week we'll look at them a little more but I'm not sure I want to do all the equipment swapping in the winter, besides I'm planing a trip now to TX and the Chevy really works just fine.
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