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Old 02-13-2016, 04:19 AM   #1
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Houston RV Show. NO REDWOODS!!

I attended the Houston RV show today. Was surprised that there was not a single Redwood in the show. I enquired from all the dealerships as to why no Redwoods. The consensus from every dealer was that Redwood is currently challenged. Anyone know anything as to what this may mean? I understand that all salesmen and dealers think they are selling the best. I made the point to most that they also are selling a unit who's parent is Thor. I looked at the new Carriage. Being a former Carriage owner I was sick at the huge drop in quality. I also clearly could see the basics of the Redwood. Frame, axels, wheels, tires etc. Totally impressed with the Landmark. In my humble opinion they have read everyone of our complaints about Redwood and placed it in the Landmark. Retractible power cord, std. 3 AC's that can be run simultaneously. They have a power management system much like the Coaches. 8K pound Dexter Axels with J rated tires and wheels Std. this is just to mention a few things. I am most concerned about the lack of Dealers for Redwood. Not 1 dealer in Houston.
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Same at the Southern California RV show last October....no Redwoods. I attributed that to the dealer that used to show them, dropped the Redwood line. There is no Redwood dealers in Southern CA now. Closet is about 250 miles north.
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Old 02-13-2016, 04:29 AM   #3
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There were quite a few at the Tampa show last month. There are 3 for sure possibly as many as 5 Florida dealers selling Redwoods.

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there was 2 2016 units at the Fort Myers show 2 weeks ago. Also the rep Steve was there. i would like to know what "challenged" means
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there was 2 2016 units at the Fort Myers show 2 weeks ago. Also the rep Steve was there. i would like to know what "challenged" means
I don't know what he meant, but there are a lot of Redwoods being built. But they seem to carry many other names with cheaper prices.

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Old 02-13-2016, 03:53 PM   #6
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Well the first red flag - "you inquired all of the dealerships".

If the Redwood dealer wasn't there, you opened the window to the competitors for a slam. Who cares what they say, really. Because they actually don't sell them, there is no intelligence behind the movement of their lips.

The last show I went to in CO was primarily tin sided trailers and toy haulers so the Dealer said he didn't bother with the Redwood or some of the luxury lines, but it will be at the larger show in two weeks.

As far as all the Landmark features, "Retractible power cord, std. 3 AC's that can be run simultaneously. They have a power management system much like the Coaches. 8K pound Dexter Axels with J rated tires and wheels Std. this is just to mention a few things".....

......As I understand, all of that is available with Redwood. Whether it is "standard" or not doesn't really mean anything, because you are paying for it anyway, either in the base or as an option. I prefer the option myself.

Yes, Carriage bit their own head off, so they don't get to say what happens to the name.
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As far as all the Landmark features, "Retractible power cord, std. 3 AC's that can be run simultaneously. They have a power management system much like the Coaches. 8K pound Dexter Axels with J rated tires and wheels Std. this is just to mention a few things".....
"J" Rated Tires. I just bought "H" rated tires that should be overkill for the Redwood. To need "J" rated tires as standard that RV must weigh a lot more then the Redwood. DRV's are also too heavy. I wonder if our Dually trucks can safely pull them or do you have to use one of those mini semi's.

The Dually is a big enough pain. My next step would be a bus with tag wheels, pulling a jeep.

Most of these threads that talk about all the fancy features being put into some of the new fifth wheels seem to forget to mention weight and what is needed to Safely pull the unit.
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Ooppss sorry, I said J. It should have said H rated. My bad.
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AA, you are right about the competition among dealers. One of those dealers had formerly been a Redwood dealer. I just found it strange that in a Market as big as Houston all other high end RV's were there. But no Redwood. ��
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Ooppss sorry, I said J. It should have said H rated. My bad.
That sounds better. But my personal theory still applies. You can throw too much into these where weight becomes an issue. I think Redwood found a good balance.
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