2017 Ford

[xtasee]

As well as some of the new Cadillac's

[bergeman]

Originally Posted by atom ant

I don't want to turn a good Ford thread into a filthy GMC thread so I won't argue, but why you are at the keyboard lookup TARP and you'll see (closer to $64 Billion) was payed back in payments from the taxpayers, not earned income from GMC.

Did General Motors Really Repay Its Taxpayer Bailout? | Fox News

Thanks, didn't know that.

[atom ant]

I have to decide by next year if we are going to replace Dory's Expedition with a 2016, because in 2017 it goes to the same grillework as the new F150, which I really don't care for, and it usually takes 5 years to evolve beyond it. I'm pretty sure it will become all aluminum as well.

So my original yippee was partly because the outside edge of the taillights have radar to project an animated view of the trailer as you back, and the mirrors have cameras to project a live display. I have extreme trouble backing into a right arc when all the view disappears out of view on my standard mirrors, and most back in type camp sights seem to be oriented that way. Unfortunately in retrospect, I don't think the radar portion of that will work with a 5th wheel, because the front of the 5th wheel will block the view by the taillight in an arc.