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Old 10-13-2014, 03:58 AM   #1
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Westlake LT tires superior to Goodyear G?

I had someone tell me at an RV show that the Westlake LT tires had higher ratings than the carrying ratings of the Goodyear G rated times. He stated that I would be better off with the Westlake rather than the Goodyear G614.

Since I hadn't heard of this tire before, I thought I'd ask what your experience has been with this tire.
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Old 10-13-2014, 04:50 AM   #2
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The Westlake ST235/85R16LRG has two ratings and I don't know why. Its listed as 4078/3637 lbs @ 110psi. A Goodyear LT235/85R16 LRG is rated at 3,750 @ 110psi.

You have to judge for yourself - but ask him what Westlake covers if the tread separates and does $3 or $4K in damage to your Redwood, and if they have a USA number you can call for the claim.

Ratings have very little to do with quality. A Chinese made ST Power King 235/80R16 LRE that sells for $90 has a higher load capacity than an LT Michelin XPS Rib 235/85R16 LRE $280 tire, but I know which one I would put my trust in. The Westlake and G614 is a similar analogy.
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:14 AM   #3
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Brad - Excellent summation.
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I agree wth Atom Ant.
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Old 10-13-2014, 02:55 PM   #5
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Where would you get a Westlake replacement if you got a blowout in Oshkosh or Walla Walla??
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Where would you get a Westlake replacement if you got a blowout in Oshkosh or Walla Walla??

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I left some of the details out of my question, to see of people's reaction to the Westlake tire.

The RW sales person stated that Thor had ordered them to drop the Goodyear G tires and use the Westlake tires on new units because the Westlake had a higher load range.

Since I was impressed with the literature telling me that the Goodyear G614 were previously standard, I was NOT impressed that they were being replaced with a tire that I hadn't heard of.

After realizing that the RW is 2000 lbs heavier than my old 5th wheel that had GY G614s and seeing that most people are loading down their units, I elected to go with the optional Goodyear H tires. I thought that the price for the upgrade was exorbitant, but I didn't want Chinese tires.

If RW priced in the GY G614s and the rims rated for 110 psi, shouldn't the upgrade be just the difference in the price of the components? If you look up the price of the GY 614 and the GY 114 (?), the difference is about $50 per tire. Assuming the difference in the rims to be about $50 a rim, then the total upgrade should be about $400. Although the MSRP for the upgrade was 5 times higher than this, I just didn't want Chinese tires.

If the upgrade was only $500, I think most people would upgrade to the H rated tires and rims.

Does anyone regret that they didn't get the chance to get Westlake tires rather than the Goodyear tires?
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I left some of the details out of my question, to see of people's reaction to the Westlake tire.
That's OK, I'll leave some of the details out of my next answer
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Funny Ant! lol Please don't...you always make a lot of sense.
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That's OK, I'll leave some of the details out of my next answer
Too funny.

What does the H-rated tire/wheel option cost? Just curious.

Also, my guess on the two ratings for the Westlake; The first number is for a single tire, the second in a "dually" situation. I see this all the time for the Toyo tires, I'm certain its an industry standard.

BTW, where are the Westlake tires made?
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That's OK, I'll leave some of the details out of my next answer
Great, I'll get confused agian.
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Also, my guess on the two ratings for the Westlake; The first number is for a single tire, the second in a "dually" situation. I see this all the time for the Toyo tires, I'm certain its an industry standard.
Ah I bet thats exactly what it is! Thanks!
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I really doubt that the switch had anything to do with the capacity, but that it was based on the "All Mighty Dollar", most likely much cheaper than Goodyear.
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I really doubt that the switch had anything to do with the capacity, but that it was based on the "All Mighty Dollar", most likely much cheaper than Goodyear.
Likely, with the fortunate marketing spin of "higher capacity"...
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Here's a little more info:
Hangzhou Zhongce Rubber Company is China's largest manufacturer of automotive tyres.[1] The company began as Hangzhou Rubber Factory in 1958. In 2011 it was the tenth largest tyre maker in the world, with $4.26 billion worth of sales.
Tyre brands produced by the company include Chaoyang, Goodride and Westlake.
Now do a search and you'll find that they have been recalling Truck tires, so Shame on RW for switching from a proven tire to a questionable tire.
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Don't you love marketing - Just call them what they are right on the brochure - Lippert rolling on Chaoyang Tyres!

Instead, we are the baby boomers in our falcons rolling on Westlakes! Sounds romantic, eh?
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What does the H-rated tire/wheel option cost? Just curious.
The MSRP on the Option List is $2,162. While this is the "funny money" amount on the build sheet and your dealer will probably give you a discount off MSRP on your total purchase, this option should be in the $400 price range since tires and rims are included in all Redwood units.

When asked why the option was so expensive, the reply was that it was hard to keep track of the options and to make sure the items were on hand at the time of build.
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The MSRP on the Option List is $2,162. While this is the "funny money" amount on the build sheet and your dealer will probably give you a discount off MSRP on your total purchase, this option should be in the $400 price range since tires and rims are included in all Redwood units.

When asked why the option was so expensive, the reply was that it was hard to keep track of the options and to make sure the items were on hand at the time of build.
That's not bad but the reasoning behind the pricing is quite funny!
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:26 PM   #20
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Is it a direct take-off/replace upgrade or do they have to change hubs, brakes, etc?
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