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Old 08-03-2014, 04:01 PM   #1
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Chevy 2500 Duramax too small for Redwood

Hello everyone, my wife and I have been looking at Redwoods for quite some time, and really like the 38BR model, you can't beat the quality of a RW and that they are more suitable for full timing. We are full timers right because I travel a lot for work. For now it is just her and I and the dog, but would plan on having kids in the future and would use the BR for a baby.

So my questions is, are people using 3/4 ton trucks to pull RW's. Almost all RW have a GVRW of 16,500, and just wondering how many people are using 3/4 tons to pull around these big beasts.

Side note I plan on putting air bags, air hitch on trailer, and already have banks six gun power system installed.

Any input is much appreciated
Joey
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Old 08-03-2014, 04:03 PM   #2
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Not enough truck Joe. You will be way over payload capacity of that 3/4. Airbags may put the headlights back on the street, but they don't change payload.
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Old 08-03-2014, 04:22 PM   #3
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Joe,
I had a 2012 Ford F350 SRW. It didn't have the payload to do the job. Although a 350 DRW would work, I opted for an F450. It has a much shorter turning radius.

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Old 08-03-2014, 04:42 PM   #4
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The hitch weight on this model is only 2665, and payload on my truck as far as I can find is 3433 according to NADA guides, and trailer life towing guide says that my truck can pulls 15,400 (2004 chevy duramax SB ext cab). I am torn because I've only had the truck about 6 months and its a good truck with less the 100k miles. Trying to do my research before we make such a big purchase as this trailer.
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Old 08-03-2014, 04:48 PM   #5
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My pin weight was also listed at 2655, but true pin weight is 3400 without water, over 4,300 with. You will be over your payload before you start.

NADA is useless for payload. Use the number printed in the door of your truck. It's based on GVWR, GAWR, and tires. Without water, I put over 7,000 lbs on my rear axle and tires of my old SRW F350, about 1,000 lbs more capacity than you have I believe on your rear axle.

I know you are fishing to maybe hear what you would like to hear, just like I did when we bought the Redwood, but in the end, I was truck shopping within a few months.
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Old 08-03-2014, 04:54 PM   #6
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sticker on door says GVWR 9200lbs, GAWR FRT 4670 lbs, GAWR RR 6084 lbs. Not gonna lie I am a bit lost when it comes to these numbers too. I would've posted pic of door sticker but unsure how to upload.
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There should be a tire sticker (green yellow) that gives you cargo capacity as well.
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As discussed with Stoker in another post, with your Duramax/Allison setup you can pull it with NO problems, but as Atom said you will be grossly overloaded with safety for you & others being the biggest concern.
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Old 08-03-2014, 05:32 PM   #9
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Joe,
I had a 2006 Dodge 3/4. With my old rig, I checked the specs of the truck and trailer and thought I was about 300-400 lbs over weight. I stopped at a scale in Oregon and weighed the truck and trailer. Doing some quick math, I figured I was about 2,000 lbs over.

When I got home, I emptied the truck, removed the hitch and headed down to the local scales. According to the specs of the truck, I should have about 2200 lbs of payload capacity. After weighing the truck empty (full tank of fuel), I actually only had about 1700 lbs. After adding my hitch, the weight of my wife and I and some cargo, well, you get the idea. Pin weight on my old rig was about 2800 lbs so I was 1800 lbs over. The trailer weight was 15,000.

Add about 1000 lbs pin weight on my Redwood and 1500 total to the trailer and you have 3800 lbs pin weight and 16500 total. It wasn't close for comfort on my 1 ton.

I know that's not what you want to hear but I hope that helps.

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Joe,
I had a 2012 Ford F350 SRW. It didn't have the payload to do the job. Although a 350 DRW would work, I opted for an F450. It has a much shorter turning radius.

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The hitch rating on most RWs is in the 2600lb range. The Ford single wheel I looked at had a payload in the 4 or 5k range, with a total pull in the 16K range. A 1 ton dually is more than enough truck. The payload on my Ram3500 DRW is in the 6k range. Ample for the 2600 lb hitch weight of a RW. My coming 36rl has a dry weight in the 13K range. My truck is rated at 17K pulling range. That being said, to answer the op's question, any 2500 is too small for the heavy RWs.
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