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Old 03-27-2012, 07:53 AM   #21
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That's true. But keep in mind that, as you can tell, many members of this forum are technically savvy people and that is limiting our perspective. I'll bet there are many new owners now and in the future thataren't do-it-yourselfers, former technicians or RV business owners that expect their new 5th Wheel to come withdocumentation that helps them get to know their new unit - without having to call the dealer or factory with dozens of questions or spend time trying to figure out simple things.

Most of us here have been living "Redwood" and gathering information through this forum while we wait 8 weeks for our units to be delivered. Picture the learning curve for an "normal buyer" who buys off the lot. Thosepeopleneed more reference information than thedealer walk-through.
Yea ...you call it 8 weeks and I call it HELL...Like a little boy waiting for Christmas. Even us naughty boys look forward to Christmas mmmmmmmm
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:37 AM   #22
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Two points: 1. If you want to see what an "High End" RV Manual should look like, the next time you are in an RV Park find someone with a High End Motorhome and ask if you can look at their Manual. 2. Some have suggested that if you have more than a minor problem, that you should just take it to the dealer. These units are designed and built for Fulltime living. Full timers can't just pull up stakes wherever they are and go find an authorized Redwood Service Center. Back to point 1. High End Motorhomes are designed for full time living and come with manuals that help facilitate that activity. I just sold a high end MH and the manuals for that unit were very complete and covered every system and subsystem. These manuals include schematics of all systems and subsystems, how to maintain and troubleshoot said systems. In addition they include information giving and overview of how each appliance works in the RV environment, e.g. how the Home Entertainment systems works in all it's different modes. Anyone ever had a question on that? But I am going way beyond my two point teaser........Just my $5 worth (2 cents adjusted for inflation). Edited by: John317
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:46 AM   #23
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Two points: 1. If you want to see what an "High End" RV Manual should look like, the next time you are in an RV Park find someone with a High End Motorhome and ask if you can look at their Manual. 2. Some have suggested that if you have more than a minor problem, that you should just take it to the dealer. These units are designed and built for Fulltime living. Full timers can't just pull up stakes wherever they are and go find an authorized Redwood Service Center. Back to point 1. High End Motorhomes are designed for full time living and come with manuals that help facilitate that activity. I just sold a high end MH and the manuals for that unit were very complete and covered every system and subsystem. These manuals include schematics of all systems and subsystems, how to maintain and troubleshoot said systems. In addition they include information giving and overview of how each appliance works in the RV environment, e.g. how the Home Entertainment systems works in all it's different modes. Anyone ever had a question on that? But I am going way beyond my two point teaser........Just my $5 worth (2 cents adjusted for inflation).
That's ok John317..you live in California and everything is expensive out there even 2 cents
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:57 AM   #24
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Old 03-27-2012, 03:06 PM   #25
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John 316 We too are selling our high end MH and moving into a 36rl. Manuals, pamphlets, directories and more. But I must admit I feel relieved to be moving into a vehicle with so few complicated systems and yet very appealing. Simple is best and costs alot less for yearly up keep. And yes waiting is very hard and yes this forum is a great feature. Booyeah!!!!
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John 316 We too are selling our high end MH and moving into a 36rl. Manuals, pamphlets, directories and more. But I must admit I feel relieved to be moving into a vehicle with so few complicated systems and yet very appealing. Simple is best and costs alot less for yearly up keep. And yes waiting is very hard and yes this forum is a great feature. Booyeah!!!!
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John 316 We too are selling our high end MH and moving into a 36rl. Manuals, pamphlets, directories and more. But I must admit I feel relieved to be moving into a vehicle with so few complicated systems and yet very appealing. Simple is best and costs alot less for yearly up keep. And yes waiting is very hard and yes this forum is a great feature. Booyeah!!!!
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:18 PM   #28
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Are the manuals in the high end m/h written in a manor that the average owner can understand or written more towards a good tech to understand? I'm just curious.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:00 PM   #29
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The manuals were written for the average owner. The jargon was neither too technical or too basic. my manuals were laid out exactly like an automotive manual with sections dealing with operation and maintenance of each system starting with an overview then getting into the details and schematics with troubleshooting tips at the end of each section. The schematics were very detailed whether it was for the plumbing system or the electrical system. I believe they were written with the view that one wouldn't always be near a service facility and that the owner may have fix things on his own. At least well enough to get to a place where a service tech would be available . For my Beaver MH I would give them an A. There was one light in my Beaver that was never turned on until the last year that I owned it becaused I was too stubborn to go through the manual to learn how to turn it on. It was a reading light for the Co-Pilot seat. Since we never travelled at night we never needed it, in fact my wife never noticed it as it was a small halogen in the ceiling directly over her seat. Well, I was looking at it one day before the new owners came to pick up the MH, and decided that MH wasn't going to leave before I turned that light on. Got the manuals out and dug through and there ti was, "turn the headlight knob clockwise".
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