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Old 07-10-2019, 01:56 PM   #1
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Considering 2017 Redwood 3401RL

We have a purchased new 2014 Montana High Country now. Looking at a 2017 Redwood 3401RL at PPLmotorhomes in Cleburne TX. That full body paint sure dazzles compared to oxidized filon. The 3401RL is a bit short on bedroom cabinets, I suppose because of the king bed vs. our queen. I think the wife can work around it though. The Redwood closet door has fallen off the track but that should be an easy fix. It does have 2 issues that are concerning: The tires are Westlake 215/75 17.5 that have a speed limit of 62MPH. That should be illegal. I suppose I could do what I assume everyone else does...just go for it. The other issue is it has a Winegard Travel'r DirectTV dish on the roof. I'm hearing of issues with DirectTV and RV's. Plus I'm thinking of all the roof perforations for mounting the dish and securing the cables. I'm already looking at RVArmor and Flex Roof. Other than those issues I'm impressed by the interior looks and trim. The frame looks substantial, it has 8,000# axles, and the exterior doors feel substantial compared to the Montana HC.
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Old 07-10-2019, 03:20 PM   #2
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Just a couple of things - ditch the Westlakes and put on Sailun S637 tires. Lots of us run th m and I haven't heard of an issue yet. I've got over 11k on mine and we're loaded heavy as fulltimers.

Suspension - this has always been a weak point with the heavy fifth wheels. If it doesn't have at least a MorRyde equalizer (the CRE 3000 or 4000) work that into the deal along with heavy duty MorRyde spring shackles and wetbolts. If you're planning on pulling a lot, work on budgeting MorRyde IS suspension and disc brakes down the road.

You'll love the coach. Ours is almost 7 years old and we still get " is that a new one " when we pull into a campground.
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Old 07-10-2019, 03:44 PM   #3
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Yeah Sailun seems to be the go to tire for this size. That's what I'll use. I might run these Westlakes for a short time. It has wet bolts and I think a cushioned equalizer. From memory on the equalizer anyway, I put my finger on a grease zerk on the spring end. Best I can tell Redwood uses the same frame for all models. Beam size anyway. Since this one has a carry capacity of 4,400# I hoping it's a robust carriage. I would love to get discs on it after we run the bugs out of it and are convinced we will keep it long term.

Thanks for the input...
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Yeah Sailun seems to be the go to tire for this size. That's what I'll use. I might run these Westlakes for a short time. It has wet bolts and I think a cushioned equalizer. From memory on the equalizer anyway, I put my finger on a grease zerk on the spring end. Best I can tell Redwood uses the same frame for all models. Beam size anyway. Since this one has a carry capacity of 4,400# I hoping it's a robust carriage. I would love to get discs on it after we run the bugs out of it and are convinced we will keep it long term.

Thanks for the input...
Morryde and disk brakes if your pulling are a great up grade . That 2017 should already have 8000lb axels and bigger brakes (3 3/8 wide x 12" shoes) if I recall. They will stop ok if they are clean and in good working order. I had 7K axles and 2" x 12 drums , that doesn't stop 17,000 lbs!
the morryde IS cost just over $3800 plus tax+ disk upgrade . They can put your drums brakes on IS. I had problems with cabinets opening while towing with springs and equilflex trungion. with Morryde IS the coffee maker stays on the counter right where I left it, even on back roads ! I have 1700 mile on my Morryde that was just installed this spring , I will not own a heavy trailer with out it now. The closet door on mine came off the track on the ride back from Niagra falls and again on the ride to Elkhart (morryde) , hasn't happened since.

duel wheel one ton is almost a must have also. IF you don't load the basement and run with almost zero water a single wheel 3500 is border line over weight on the rear axel.
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Old 07-10-2019, 08:36 PM   #5
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I could Google the Morryde IS, but is it a torsion axle? I have 2 torsion axles on my boat trailer and one on my utility trailer. I like 'em.

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Morryde is similar to TQ style axles , it uses a large rubber block that has a swing arm that is held up by rubber in the shear direction. light trailer TQ style axles use rubber in a twisting motion and compression. Morryde can change the sping rate by how hard the rubber is and how much rubber is on the blocks.
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Old 07-14-2019, 05:49 PM   #7
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Question for those that have hanging/sliding front closet doors with the track inside the closet...there are 2 small doorknobs on the exterior of the doors where they meet. Do you think a small bungee cord wrapped around the 2 knobs would prevent the doors from sliding while travelling? We use spring loaded curtain rods in the bottom tracks of the shower doors to prevent them from sliding, if the little latch doesn't hold.
Advice please...this 5th has been for sale since March, with no offers. The salesman is young and new with maybe 6 months experience. The sales manager did most of the talking, and he is good. I made them a low ball offer 10 days ago. About 15% less than asking price. I called the new salesman a couple days later with the "Ford truck guy" simple fix for the sliding closet door. They haven't called back. Not sure if it's a stand-off or what. Would you call and ring their bell, or wait some more??
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I have a drop in latch with a heavy 1/4" ~5/16 wire that drops into a receiver at the bottom and two latches to keep the doors strait and latched. No issue for a 1000 mile drive to Elkhart this spring on pot hole infested roads. this was all before putting Morryde in , the 1000 miles home I left the coffee maker on the counter (it didn't move). the doors in my opinion are a very easy fix , tops 1 hour and $25 in cabinet door hardware. Not knowing your offer " low ball" may need just a little bump.
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I have a drop in latch with a heavy 1/4" ~5/16 wire that drops into a receiver at the bottom and two latches to keep the doors strait and latched. No issue for a 1000 mile drive to Elkhart this spring on pot hole infested roads. this was all before putting Morryde in , the 1000 miles home I left the coffee maker on the counter (it didn't move). the doors in my opinion are a very easy fix , tops 1 hour and $25 in cabinet door hardware. Not knowing your offer " low ball" may need just a little bump.
I put the same latch on our Montana HC front closet doors. Apparently the heat has affected my brain. Jeez, I'll just do the same thing.

I'm thinking the salesman is waiting on me, and I'm waiting on him.
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Remember...."Tis the season" in regards to RV sales...they are never as hungry this time of the year...!5% lower is an easy to accept offer offer..."off season"...maybe not as easy to swallow right now..We purchased ours middle of Jan....-30 (Canada)....pretty quiet around the dealerships that time of year..

I would pester them....when I want something I go after it....but I also have a price in mind and don't move much from that...did the salesman get you a counter offer ?...If not ....boot him in the butt to get you one....

Always remember....THERE IS ALWAYS MORE OUT THERE !!...the next rig down the road could even be better...

Its been my experience that my final deal....whatever it is ....always is better than the original thing I was after....Trucks...RV's....equipment for my farm...even real estate ( for us)....
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