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Old 03-25-2014, 07:27 PM   #1
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Traveling with a smoker

We got off track inside another post and I wanted to start a new post in order to get some input from other members

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Old 03-25-2014, 07:28 PM   #2
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Not for nothing but, real BBQ is done on a smoker*******

54Ah, the question is not "to smoke or not to smoke", I ask myself only "what to smoke today" or if I plan ahead, "what will I be smoking tomorrow".*Ok seriously I love my Traeger wood pellet grill at home. I use it as much as 5x/week during the summer. One of my first purchases will be an outside bbq/smoker and the*Traeger PTG*is a serious option. It only requires a 400W inverter to run so power with or without shore power won't be an issue.Another option which I ran into at the Tampa show is the*Davy Crockett*from Green Mountain Grill. It has a better temp control, slightly better design (although has a bigger footprint in storage) and runs off either 110V or 12V (directly, no inverter).Both require wood pellets, so that could be a problem, but having something like this is a must.Any real world experience with a unit like this on the road? These aren't Green Egg style bbqs, they have an electronic ignition of wood pellets. Would like to hear what people are using.I do know one of the best ways to meet your neighbor is to fire the smoker, drop in rack (or 2) of ribs, crack a beer and wait......__________________Redwood 2014 38FL (on order)Ford 2015 F350 (on order)States we've visited
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Old 03-25-2014, 07:34 PM   #3
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I use the Davey Crockett GMG and love it. The legs remove very easily and i transport it on a cargo carrier on the back of the RV*******

,That's great exactly what we are thinking of doing.Another question though, what do you do about bears? Have you been into bear country with it?*We are planning on heading west and also up into Alaska. We will need to be really careful about leaving a smoker around the campsite.*Any thoughts on that?__________________

Oh WOW i hadn't thought of that and we are leaving for Fairbanks next week.*Could one spray the grill with something to mask the smell? I wonder if there is an agency that works with bears one could ask ?*******

So far I've read through info on the*American Bear Associationwebsite, but it is generally silent on the issue of bbq's. It also seems to be more geared towards permanent homes not RV/camping info.I'm curious what the rangers @ any national parks you stay at will advise. I guess you could drop it into one of the bear proof storage lockers, but I'm not sure if it will fit.One other question is where do you plan on getting the wood from? The closest dealer I see to Fairbanks is in Anchorage. Do they ship? Can I use the Traeger pellets? How many bags of pellets (if any) are you planning on setting out with?Yes I LOVE my smoker, and I also LOVE to be prepared*.Thanks________

I just emailed the Alaskan Department of Public Safety*Ill post their answer. I'm going to start a new thread so we can get some other advice. Look for the post there
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Old 03-25-2014, 07:37 PM   #4
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As far as pellets go, I would think there should be something available in Fairbanks. I've even used stove pellets in an emergency although I wouldn't recommend that. Stove pellets are made from industrial sawdust (factory floor sweepings).

I'm taking a full bag with me
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Old 03-25-2014, 07:42 PM   #5
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So really the bottom line question is what is the safest way to travel with a smoker or bbq in bear country?
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:03 PM   #6
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If I hadn't gone directly to the thread...
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:36 AM   #7
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Email response from Alaska Department of Public Safety

Good afternoon-

I forwarded you inquiry to one of our Wildlife Troopers and the following is his suggestion:

He could try spraying it down with a bleach/ water solution* He could also consider rigging up an electric fence around it at night.* There are several models for bears that run off batteries. *People use them in campsites quite regularly.*

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Thank you for taking the time to inquire!

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DPS, Public Information Officerrom the Alaska Department of Public Safety

personally would assume that it is much like a dog would react… The fence would be a deterrent for them, keep them from repeatedly trying to get to the grill. The key is to try to diminish the scent of any attractants. A fence would be additional precautions if they still came sniffing around.

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For other suggestion, try visiting http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm...withbears.main

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There is a link about electric fences for bears on that site. The biologists at fish and game are probably much better suited to address bear and other wild animal behavior questions.
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Old 03-27-2014, 12:41 AM   #9
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The ADPS is a great starting point. Looked at some of the products they recommend and don't think they would work for the smokers, too small basically just for food and camping gear.

I did though track down a more expanded list of manufacturers that have certified bear resistant equipment. The certifying agency is the Interagency Grizzly Bear Committee (IGBC) which is part of the USDA Forest Service.

They have a very extensive list of certified bear-resistant products.

I haven't gone through all of them yet, but I know Ichabod you are leaving next week so I thought I'd post this so you can start to have a look. If I find something that I think would help with the issue I post it.
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:01 PM   #10
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We travelled extensively in Sequoia National Park last fall. (GORGEOUS) I can tell you that bears are a consideration in MANY places. We attended the short film at the ranger station about them, and I HIGHLY recommend everyone who travels in the parks and wilderness do so. You learn a LOT in a very short time and feel much better about the whole "bear thing". After looking at photos of LOCKED CARS with their DOORS RIPPED OFF because a bear saw part of a package of a loaf of bread showing in a bag in the back seat... made me horrified to think of the fate of the thin basement doors securing our little grill. It would be NOTHING for them to rip that off! Parks provide big, very heavy bear-proof containers for storing your food items, and we use them to put the grill in.

Recently, camping in Oregon, we were highly amused to watch the neighboring camper out in the evening (after dark) with his grill on the picnic table heating up. He was inside marinating steaks or whatever... and we just cracked up. He had left his basement door open (as we all often do while using it) and there was a large family of HUGE fat racoons INSIDE of his RV basement going through EVERYTHING. It was hilarious. We were just getting ready to go knock on his door when he came out and they scattered. Wildlife become EXTREMELY comfortable and bold in and around campgrounds and they do not really fear humans. We have had racoons come up to us sitting in our chairs next to the fire and grab marshmallows out of our hands! (and no, don't attack me, we do NOT feed the wildlife EVER)
Anyway, just a couple of amusing stories... I have a picture of a bear with me in the foreground that my husband took that shows how prevalent they are. Be careful out there!
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Old 03-30-2014, 05:05 AM   #11
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Loaded the GMG today. This will be my first attempt at posting pictures. Hope they work
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Old 03-30-2014, 02:50 PM   #12
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Wow,
how much does all that weigh ?

Just trying to help here, but, whew, that looks like the first hard dip would shear off the hitch

given how much the rear of the RW shimmies just from walking around from so much unsupported distance from the tires to the rear, I'm concerned for you...
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Old 03-30-2014, 07:37 PM   #13
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I have a carrier that I use to carry a couple chairs some lawn equipment a hose reel and a plastic tool box with some grilling equip. and other stuff on it. Hauled it 1500 miles last fall and no problem. I think the hitch is rated at 300 lbs.
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Are those diesel fuel cans?
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Old 03-30-2014, 09:43 PM   #16
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Brad,
I think the same thing but that picture almost made me p$#@ my pants I laughed so hard.
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Old 03-30-2014, 11:39 PM   #17
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Altogether about 200#. I think the carrier is rated at 500# Yes they are Atom
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Old 03-30-2014, 11:41 PM   #18
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What did you all think of the last picture. Loaded for bear--- literally
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Old 03-30-2014, 11:43 PM   #19
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Altogether about 200#. I think the carrier is rated at 500# Yes they are Atom
The hitch on our Redwoods are rated at 300 lbs, so you're within its limits.
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Old 03-30-2014, 11:52 PM   #20
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Yea. The specs say 152# plus a little for ''flavor''build up. 70# of diesel and the weight of the carrier. I figure no more than 270#
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