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Old 01-07-2015, 08:04 AM   #1
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Plugging into 110

We keep our RW at a covered storage lot that has a 110 power outlet at each space. I have never plugged into this particular outlet. I was thinking of using my Surge Guard protector to test polarity, etc on the outlet. If everything was ok I was gonna plug in to charge the batteries and run the fridge. I don't really want to leave the surge protector plugged up for fear of it disappearing. Would a household surge protector do any good or should it be fine just plugged up to the outlet with no protector? Any suggestions or info on what others do for 110 outlets would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Since my surge guard is the 50 amp version, it just never crossed my mind to test the power at our storage location

Agree with you, wouldn't want our surge guard to get legs either and a household one wouldn't hurt at all... (Although I've been told that those can handle one surge only and then they are no good)

I plugged ours into the 110 for months now and no issues...
just to keep batteries charged and the furnace set to 40 degrees or less... but everything else is off including the residential fridge just because there's really no need for us to have anything else on.
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Old 01-07-2015, 05:21 PM   #3
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Neal,
In all honesty the best long term solution would be to install hard mounted Surge Protection like Johnboytoo and myself have. I don't think twice about plugging into strange plugs now and there's no fear of it getting stolen.

Now to actually answer your question. One of the biggest benefits to having surge protection is actually the polarity protection. Typically once plugged into a correctly wired outlet you don't have to worry too much about something happening with the power. However regions vary with this depending on local power reliability, thunderstorms, etc so your mileage may vary. In short what I'm saying is plug it in once to check everything is OK, if things are ok remove it and plug the unit directly into the outlet without the surge device installed.
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Neal,
In all honesty the best long term solution would be to install hard mounted Surge Protection like Johnboytoo and myself have. I don't think twice about plugging into strange plugs now and there's no fear of it getting stolen.

Now to actually answer your question. One of the biggest benefits to having surge protection is actually the polarity protection. Typically once plugged into a correctly wired outlet you don't have to worry too much about something happening with the power. However regions vary with this depending on local power reliability, thunderstorms, etc so your mileage may vary. In short what I'm saying is plug it in once to check everything is OK, if things are ok remove it and plug the unit directly into the outlet without the surge device installed.

X2..........best practice.
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You can go to Home Depot or Lowes and purchase a yellow "plug in" tester to any 110 outlet and it will tell you if it is wired correctly however it will not tell you if the voltage is within proper range. I also have an inexpensive plug in volt meter that I leave plugged In to an outlet in the coach so I can monitor any changes in voltage.
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I have the progressive dynamics built in 50A. I may have false assumptions, but I assume it also protects me to some level when plugged into a standard 20A with adapter.
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AA I have the same hard wired surge protector as you and when you are plugged into a 15A outlet, the readout progresses through L1, L2, and E# just like normal. But one of the L1 or L2 readouts is 0V, the other is 115V. Worked just like a champ.
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That's good to know Jim. So I just don't have to worry about it. I wish I would have got the remote readout - I never really see mine unless there is a problem and I have to go crawl in and look. Otherwise I never really know what it is doing.
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Jim, if plugged into a 15, 20, or 30 and only get reading on one leg, you have a problem or something isn't wired correctly. That would also say that only half you RW was getting power. When using any of the many assorted adapters with a 50 amp rig, it should feed both L1 and L2 and the voltage should be the same since they are tied together at the adapter.
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I have the progressive dynamics built in 50A. I may have false assumptions, but I assume it also protects me to some level when plugged into a standard 20A with adapter.

Brad, your assumption is correct.
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We have surge guards that plug into the pedestal and we've never been concerned about them "walking away". A thought that you may want to consider if you are careful with your power usage, purchase a cheap 15 amp surge bar and use it. The amperage you would be pulling will be less than 15 amps with just the fridge and convertor running (unless your batts are fully discharged). When you get back, plug in your regular surge guard before you do something in the RV.

When in Mexico we ran on 4 amps (WH and fridge on propane) and we had a 20 amp external power conditioner that did fine. The fridge should pull less than 10 amps. All this assumes a propane fridge, if you have a residential fridge the 15 amp bar may not work
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