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Old 07-23-2013, 10:03 AM   #1
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I'm trying to get my rv ready for dry camping and hurricane season.I have my 50 amp down to 30 amps on the genny. My surge protector show good neutral but a opened ground. How can you not have a opened ground going down the road. You can't get a earth ground?
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:05 PM   #2
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Buddy,



I recall some discussion about this on the this forum last year. Search past threads about this issue because I think some surge protectors are sensitive as to whether they are plug-ins or wired-in and if wired-in,whether they are wired before or after the transfer switch.
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Old 07-23-2013, 04:00 PM   #3
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I installed my surge suppressor downstream of the transfer switch to allow the generator to bypass it, but to provide surge suppression on the shore line.

I had heard of issues between genny and surge.
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Old 07-23-2013, 04:43 PM   #4
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I'm waiting for Leonard to call me back, but from what I'm hearing the only way any generator can be truly protected is with a earth ground by code.
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:53 PM   #5
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If I'm not mistaken....Tall-Pines (Ian) had some good information on this as well as some great pictures that he posted last year. You might want to check some of his posts. Like 5th time said, there was a long informative thread last year on the subject with several contributors.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:10 PM   #6
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Buddy I feel your pain. Been their done that. I have the Honda 6500IS and have the surge protector also. It drove me nuts for a weekend.
What you need to do is and it’s called Bonding. What it is is the connecting of the neutral and ground together. This is a very controversial subject but it works. What I did is bought a male plug and made a short jumper wire and connected the neutral and ground wires together and plug it into the 110 outlet of the front panel. I then can hook up the generator to the coach and all power goes through the surge protector. You will no longer get the open ground code.

P.S. I looked for that open ground all day after I installed the surge protector. It took 3 months for all my hair to grow back from pulling it out.
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:48 AM   #7
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Buddy I feel your pain. Been their done that. *I have the Honda 6500IS and have the surge protector also. It drove me nuts for a weekend.*
What you need to do is and it’s called Bonding. What it is is the connecting of the neutral and ground together. *This is a very controversial subject but it works. What I did is bought a male plug and made a short jumper wire and connected the neutral and ground wires together and plug it into the 110 outlet of the front panel. I then can hook up the generator to the coach and all power goes through the surge protector. You will no longer get the open ground code.*

P.S. I looked for that open ground all day after I installed the surge protector. It took 3 months for all my hair to grow back from pulling it out.
I did that yesterday after I found it on google, It did work and I didn't show any faults on the surge protector. Both A/C units ran great, but I heard a noise in the bedroom and it was the pump on the washer trying to pump water out and I never turned it on. I turned it off, but the washing machine pump still ran. After going back to 110V shore power all was okay. I will try again today. Thanks G&N bonding
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Buddy I feel your pain. Been their done that. *I have the Honda 6500IS and have the surge protector also. It drove me nuts for a weekend.*
What you need to do is and it’s called Bonding. What it is is the connecting of the neutral and ground together. *This is a very controversial subject but it works. What I did is bought a male plug and made a short jumper wire and connected the neutral and ground wires together and plug it into the 110 outlet of the front panel. I then can hook up the generator to the coach and all power goes through the surge protector. You will no longer get the open ground code.*

P.S. I looked for that open ground all day after I installed the surge protector. It took 3 months for all my hair to grow back from pulling it out.
I did that yesterday after I found it on google, It did work and I didn't show any faults on the surge protector. Both A/C units ran great, but I heard a noise in the bedroom and it was the pump on the washer trying to pump water out and I never turned it on. I turned it off, but the washing machine pump still ran. After going back to 110V shore power all was okay. I will try again today. Thanks G&N bonding
Did you put your 6500IS on a cargo carrier on the back hitch and plug into the 50 amp service?
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I don't know about the gen. surge protector thing, but as to connecting the ground & neutral together, I think if you look in you home circuit breaker box, or the one in you RV, you will see that the neutral and ground are both connected to the same buss bar.
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I don't know about the gen. surge protector thing, but as to connecting the ground & neutral together, I think if you look in you home circuit breaker box, or the one in you RV, you will see that the neutral and ground are both connected to the same buss bar.
Most homes has a earth ground that is tied into the neutral/ground buss bar, mine has two that I know of. It works without a earth ground, but I put one and grounded the Honda Generator to it just in case of lightning. If we do get a hurricane I will go Northwest anyway, a good excuse to travel.
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