Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-14-2015, 05:38 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 392
First Break Camp departure on Tuesday

On Tuesday I leave Wyoming and back to Texas. It has been one month and my RW feels like home. A lot more went right then wrong. Heat pumps and fireplace allowed me stay with only having to purchase on tank of propane. Heat pumps worked down to 30-32.

First departure question:
While playing around at my service center I found a tube underneath that looks like it is used to store the sewage hose. Does everyone have this and do people use it? I think all the entries I have read refer to storing it in a bin and plastic bag.

Second:
I brought antifreeze for the water lines, but If I drive fast enough to Texas, do I really need to bother with it if I drain and purge with air?
__________________
Scott
2015 38GK, Titan Brakes, H 114 Tires, IS
2015 Denali Dually
bergeman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2015, 05:51 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
travelin' texans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,919
Yes, I use the sewer tube but I relocated it so I didn't have to crawl under the coach to get to it. I wouldn't winterize it, if it gets too cold you can run the furnace while traveling.
__________________
Danny & Linda
Former '13 FB owner
Currently rvless!
travelin' texans is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2015, 05:59 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 392
Quote:
Originally Posted by travelin' texans View Post
Yes, I use the sewer tube but I relocated it so I didn't have to crawl under the coach to get to it. I wouldn't winterize it, if it gets too cold you can run the furnace while traveling.
This is why this forum is so great. I wouldn't have even considered running the furnace. But that would work.
__________________
Scott
2015 38GK, Titan Brakes, H 114 Tires, IS
2015 Denali Dually
bergeman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2015, 03:46 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
atom ant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 7,101
That tube is kind of a pain to get to. I added a second one so I can carry two 10 ft hoses and fittings.

PS, we are getting clobbered with snow Monday night. Have you looked at the forecast for Wyoming?
__________________
Brad & Dory - Lone Tree, CO
CURRENT - 2013 Itasca Meridian 42E/2013 Wrangler 4dr Sahara
SOLD - 2014 Redwood 36RL/2014 F350 DRW
atom ant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2015, 04:20 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 392
Quote:
Originally Posted by atom ant View Post
That tube is kind of a pain to get to. I added a second one so I can carry two 10 ft hoses and fittings.

PS, we are getting clobbered with snow Monday night. Have you looked at the forecast for Wyoming?
Thanks for heads up, no, just looked at Tuesday. I could sneak out here Monday afternoon if I had to.

How do Dually's (4WD) handle in snow compared to other 4WD vehicles, like a jeep? I'm thinking the dual tires would be a deficit.

If I had to leave the RV someplace to ensure I could get back. Would I be looking for a storage place or leave it at some campground?
__________________
Scott
2015 38GK, Titan Brakes, H 114 Tires, IS
2015 Denali Dually
bergeman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2015, 04:35 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
atom ant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 7,101
It's going to get colder too looks like, down in the 20s at night, 10 by Friday.

If you have 4WD you should be fine towing. Mine is not great in the snow when I'm not towing. If the snow is deep it seams my front wheels are constantly trying to pull the wide ass through, because the greater tire surface in the back and lighter weight with an empty truck causes the rear axles to try and run up on top of the snow sometimes. I have a Jeep and thats the car of choice in the morning when I see snow on the ground. I try to leave the dually in the garage.

I've never tried short term storage on quick notice, but there are several year round campgrounds you could pull into.
__________________
Brad & Dory - Lone Tree, CO
CURRENT - 2013 Itasca Meridian 42E/2013 Wrangler 4dr Sahara
SOLD - 2014 Redwood 36RL/2014 F350 DRW
atom ant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2015, 05:06 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Shane Wood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,944
Send a message via AIM to Shane Wood Send a message via MSN to Shane Wood Send a message via Yahoo to Shane Wood
I would be hesitant about running with the propane on. The rubber line that feeds the stove runs right above the driver side tires. In the event of a blow out you may get more than you bargained for
__________________
2015 36RL pushing a 2015 Denali
Shane Wood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2015, 05:30 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 545
Scott,
I didn't use the sewer hose storage. I like the Rhino hose and the fittings didn't fit without filing off the tabs. Instead, I used plastic fence posts from Home Depot (Lowes sells them too).

If I mounted them directly on the frame, they would have been behind the fender skirt so I used a length of 2x2 aluminum tube, attached it to the frame and then attached the fence post to the tube.

Ken
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_2061.jpg (273.7 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2062.jpg (224.1 KB, 6 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2063.jpg (211.4 KB, 8 views)
brenkco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2015, 05:41 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 392
Very nice, did you add weep/drain holes?
__________________
Scott
2015 38GK, Titan Brakes, H 114 Tires, IS
2015 Denali Dually
bergeman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2015, 05:45 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 545
Scott,
A few. They are fence posts so they have slots for the horizontal fence boards. I made sure they were facing down.

I used the caps as covers using some springs and cotter pins to hold the springs in place. Makes for easy access.

Ken
brenkco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2015, 06:05 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
atom ant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 7,101
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane Wood View Post
I would be hesitant about running with the propane on. The rubber line that feeds the stove runs right above the driver side tires. In the event of a blow out you may get more than you bargained for
Kind of paranoid don't you think? Have you ever seen the low volume of gas that flows out of the propane system downstream of the regulator? Now having a blowout and ripping open the black tank - that's something to fear!
__________________
Brad & Dory - Lone Tree, CO
CURRENT - 2013 Itasca Meridian 42E/2013 Wrangler 4dr Sahara
SOLD - 2014 Redwood 36RL/2014 F350 DRW
atom ant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2015, 06:22 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
travelin' texans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,919
As I said on the other post, the valve on the propane bottle will shut off flow almost instantly, you still have the minimal about still in the lines, I wouldn't hesitate to run the furnace for fear of that happening.
__________________
Danny & Linda
Former '13 FB owner
Currently rvless!
travelin' texans is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2015, 07:41 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 377
As far as a dually in the snow is concerned... They are a little light in the rear but one of the biggest problems is snow packing between the wheels and causing the rear wheel to be unbalanced. I run Goodyear Silent Armor. They take a while to break in but they are the best snow tire I have found.
Tomkidder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2015, 12:34 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 190
Ken, thanks for the pictures. The tech who did my PDI suggested the same and I'm planning on doing the same. Very ingenious on the springs to hold the caps. Are these mounted towards the rear of the RW?
__________________
Ken & Patty
2015 38GK Onan DW W-D Disks MorRyde IS & Pin-box Trav'ler 2015 GMC Denali 3500HD DRW Duramax
"Who lives sees much; Who travels sees more!"
RV4us2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2015, 12:57 AM   #15
Senior Member
 
Shane Wood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,944
Send a message via AIM to Shane Wood Send a message via MSN to Shane Wood Send a message via Yahoo to Shane Wood
Quote:
Originally Posted by atom ant View Post
Kind of paranoid don't you think? Have you ever seen the low volume of gas that flows out of the propane system downstream of the regulator? Now having a blowout and ripping open the black tank - that's something to fear!
Yup I have seen what a backhoe digging into a low pressure gas line as well as a high pressure line.
I will take the high pressure every time. The flow of gas coming out of your propane bottle has the right air to fuel mixture to ignite. High pressure lines have to much gas to the air ratio to do the same. When you have a blowout and sparks are created to light your ruptured stove line up you want to hope you are going fast enough that the only thing that burns is the trailer and not the tow vehicle.
__________________
2015 36RL pushing a 2015 Denali
Shane Wood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2015, 01:00 AM   #16
Senior Member
 
Rosey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 299
Coil the sewer hose into a slotted plastic storage bin & store it in the pickup bed. Works for me. The attached factory storage tube is a royal pita in my opinion. I used to use a front end loader to clear my long country driveway of DEEP snow. Now I just make a dozen or so passes using my Dulley. Plows thru deep snow like a tank.
__________________
Mike & Gayle
Our 3 fur children "Ting-Tang"&"Saylor"(Shih Tsu's) &"Kai" (Finnish Spitz)
2007 Silverado Classic 3500 LT C.C. Longbed Dually,
Duramax, Allison Tranny, 62 Gal. Titan Tank
2016 39MB 5.5 Onan, Residential Package, Goodyear G114's, Mor/ryde heavy duty Shackle/bushing upgrade.
Rosey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2015, 01:39 AM   #17
Senior Member
 
mhs4771's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,369
Before I retired, my Dually was my "Go To Vehicle" when the roads were bad (Buffalo/Rochester Snow Belt Area of Western New York). But I was cheating, as I had approx 700 Lbs of Sand Bags in the Bed located behind the wheel wells.
Our first trip to Florida for the winter was in Early February, so we ran the furnace, set at approx 55, the first couple of day to keep the under belly and water lines warm.
__________________
Michelle & Ann
2018 Chevy 3500HD Crew Cab High Country DRW, D/A, 2016 RW39MB, Dual ACs, Auto Level, Auto Sat Dish, Stack W/D, King Sleep #, 17.5" Sailuns w/Disc, MORryde IS & Pin, Comfort Ride Hitch, 5.5 Onan, Res Fridge & Induction Cook Top
mhs4771 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2015, 04:14 PM   #18
Site Team
 
hoosierguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,285
Lightbulb

Quote:
Originally Posted by mhs4771 View Post
Before I retired, my Dually was my "Go To Vehicle" when the roads were bad (Buffalo/Rochester Snow Belt Area of Western New York). But I was cheating, as I had approx 700 Lbs of Sand Bags in the Bed located behind the wheel wells.
Our first trip to Florida for the winter was in Early February, so we ran the furnace, set at approx 55, the first couple of day to keep the under belly and water lines warm.

So, you were able to run your furnace while traveling? I have tried that on trips south in the cold weather and have not had success in getting the furnace to ignite. I have guessed that there is too much air turbulence to sustain ignition. I have considered the possibility of making and attaching an air baffle to the exterior of the furnace exhaust tubes, but, I have not tried that yet. I wonder why some furnaces will ignite and burn while moving and others will not.

My Dometic refrigerator operates on LP just fine while traveling.
__________________
Guy & Phyllis
2012 RW36RL,DualA/C,KodiakDiskBrakes,TrailAir Tri-Glide,GY_G614's,Mor/RydeSRE4000,HDShackles/WetBolts
2011Dodge3500Laramie,CrewCab,4x4,SRW,Michelins, LongBed,6.7LCTD,3.73,PullRiteSuper5th20.5KHitch, BlueOxBedsaver

hoosierguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2015, 04:14 PM   #19
Senior Member
 
atom ant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 7,101
Quote:
Originally Posted by travelin' texans View Post
As I said on the other post, the valve on the propane bottle will shut off flow almost instantly, you still have the minimal about still in the lines, I wouldn't hesitate to run the furnace for fear of that happening.
Actually I don't thing anything will shutdown on the low pressure side of the regulator. The safety valves on the cylinder and pigtails are designed to shut down a free flow on the high pressure side before the regulator, but not the restricted flow downstream, or they would activate when running the furnace and oven which when running together nearly exceed the regulator flow capacity.
__________________
Brad & Dory - Lone Tree, CO
CURRENT - 2013 Itasca Meridian 42E/2013 Wrangler 4dr Sahara
SOLD - 2014 Redwood 36RL/2014 F350 DRW
atom ant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2015, 04:40 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
atom ant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 7,101
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane Wood View Post
The flow of gas coming out of your propane bottle has the right air to fuel mixture to ignite.
Actually not true at all - what comes out of the cylinder is pure LP vapor - or liquid - depending on how the cylinder is laying - and no air. The LFL of propane is 2.1% in air and the UFL is 10.1% in air. Any mixture outside of that range is not flammable. The LP coming out of the cylinder would need to mix with atmosphere and only the perimeter of the gas cloud that has a mixture between 2.1% and 10.1% is ignitable and capable of continued burn.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane Wood View Post
High pressure lines have to much gas to the air ratio to do the same.
Also not true - the gas or vapor cloud at the source of the high pressure release may be above the UFL - but at some point between the source of the release and atmosphere there is a perimeter of exact mixture within the 2.1% and 10.1% that is ignitable. It may not be as close to the source as low pressure (where the backhoe is), but the ignitable range is there, usually right where the supervisor pulls up in his pickup to yell at the backhoe operator.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane Wood View Post
When you have a blowout and sparks are created to light your ruptured stove line up you want to hope you are going fast enough that the only thing that burns is the trailer and not the tow vehicle.
Chances are high you could never release enough gas in atmosphere while rolling down the road to ever support ignition. The air transfer past the ruptured line would continuously keep it below the LFL. Once you stop, maybe you would get ignition assuming the ignition source was still there, but you know what they say about propane leaks - much rather have it burn where I can see it than collect where I can't see it to go boom later.
__________________
Brad & Dory - Lone Tree, CO
CURRENT - 2013 Itasca Meridian 42E/2013 Wrangler 4dr Sahara
SOLD - 2014 Redwood 36RL/2014 F350 DRW
atom ant is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Redwood RV or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×