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Old 12-05-2013, 11:43 AM   #11
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Wow Dave - you seem to make snap judgements on a lot of people -
and, as with most snap judgements, yours of me is wrong ...
it's a discussion forum - discuss what you want

if others participate, fine, if they don't, fine...
it's probably because they have no interest or knowledge of the subject at hand if they don't and since this is post 9 or so on the thread - SOMEBODY discussed it ! Have fun...
If I came across mean spirited..........it was not my intent. For that I apologize. Any discussion on this thread is appreciated.

No matter how we RV it fun.......
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Old 12-05-2013, 01:59 PM   #12
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The Redwood website has returned to only Redwoods, except for a link to Crossroads at the bottom of the page. The Elevations & reference to Carriage were removed shortly after the new 38's were introduced.

With respect to opening this forum to discussion of other brands, personally I prefer the current format, as the technical information provided is specific to our coach. If other brands were introduced would it bother me - yes somewhat, but I can always be selective in which posts to read.

Their are numerous forums out there for discussion of various RV's & the RV'ing lifestyle in general.
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Old 12-05-2013, 03:20 PM   #13
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OK here's my opinion on the subject:
This is a Redwood Forum not an Elevation or Crossroads forum. Yes Redwood's parent company is Thor same as Crossroads, Keystone, Heartlands, and others. On the side of our Redwood is says "Redwood in much smaller letters "by Thor"" not Redwood by Crossroads.
Redwoods are mfr's at their own plant, Thor in an effort to reduce overall expenses and allow increased production of Redwoods, moved the service aspect over to the Crossroads plant.
If you want to open the forum up to all others, why not just join the Thor Forum which is for all Thor products.
Having owned a Montana I am still a member of that forum, but as such cannot post pictures of or even mention that we now own a Redwood, per their forum we are "SOBs". That doesn't bother me, so I suppose the same could be done here. If you move from a Redwood to a MH, Elevation, or something you can remain a member, but limit discussion to general RV issues and not specific items as pertaining to your new unit.
Spend some time on RV Net or IRV2 forums and see all the brand bashing and bickering that goes on. There is good info there, but you have to read between the posts to get to it. Unlike here where we all own the same brand and since the one or two bashers are no longer with us, we have healthily conversations and discussions that help all involved in the forum.
My opinions and I'm sticking to them.
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Old 12-05-2013, 03:43 PM   #14
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These are all great opinions! Oriana has touched on something that I was not aware of. Elevation has been dropped from the Redwood site. I must say, that I did check on the Redwood site just before I had left for Florida (two weeks ago) and looked at Elevation, Redwood, & Rushmore. Like Oriana has stated Redwood is now by itself.

From my stand point of view, If it ain't on the site then it isn't part of the Redwood specific family.

Thanks all!!!!
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Old 12-05-2013, 05:13 PM   #15
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OK here's my opinion on the subject:
This is a Redwood Forum not an Elevation or Crossroads forum. Yes Redwood's parent company is Thor same as Crossroads, Keystone, Heartlands, and others. On the side of our Redwood is says "Redwood in much smaller letters "by Thor"" not Redwood by Crossroads.
Redwoods are mfr's at their own plant, Thor in an effort to reduce overall expenses and allow increased production of Redwoods, moved the service aspect over to the Crossroads plant.
If you want to open the forum up to all others, why not just join the Thor Forum which is for all Thor products.
Having owned a Montana I am still a member of that forum, but as such cannot post pictures of or even mention that we now own a Redwood, per their forum we are "SOBs". That doesn't bother me, so I suppose the same could be done here. If you move from a Redwood to a MH, Elevation, or something you can remain a member, but limit discussion to general RV issues and not specific items as pertaining to your new unit.
Spend some time on RV Net or IRV2 forums and see all the brand bashing and bickering that goes on. There is good info there, but you have to read between the posts to get to it. Unlike here where we all own the same brand and since the one or two bashers are no longer with us, we have healthily conversations and discussions that help all involved in the forum.
My opinions and I'm sticking to them.


Well said!
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:14 PM   #16
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OK here's my opinion on the subject:
This is a Redwood Forum not an Elevation or Crossroads forum. Yes Redwood's parent company is Thor same as Crossroads, Keystone, Heartlands, and others. On the side of our Redwood is says "Redwood in much smaller letters "by Thor"" not Redwood by Crossroads.
Redwoods are mfr's at their own plant, Thor in an effort to reduce overall expenses and allow increased production of Redwoods, moved the service aspect over to the Crossroads plant.
If you want to open the forum up to all others, why not just join the Thor Forum which is for all Thor products.
Having owned a Montana I am still a member of that forum, but as such cannot post pictures of or even mention that we now own a Redwood, per their forum we are "SOBs". That doesn't bother me, so I suppose the same could be done here. If you move from a Redwood to a MH, Elevation, or something you can remain a member, but limit discussion to general RV issues and not specific items as pertaining to your new unit.
Spend some time on RV Net or IRV2 forums and see all the brand bashing and bickering that goes on. There is good info there, but you have to read between the posts to get to it. Unlike here where we all own the same brand and since the one or two bashers are no longer with us, we have healthily conversations and discussions that help all involved in the forum.
My opinions and I'm sticking to them.
Pride comes before a fall. We are all but filthy rags. I was raised to be a peace maker. Why would Crossroads pay for all my maintenance if we are not theirs?
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:37 PM   #17
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The only thing that I have found on my Redwood that is maybe specifically Redwood, is maybe the cabinets, floor plan, etc. All the appliances, frame, axles, tires, leveling system, etc. are not specific to Redwood. Therefore, if somebody that owns an Elevation, has some information that will help me with a problem, I would be glad to listen to them. I still don't know where the Elevation fits in, dealers that I checked that are listing the 2014 Elevation are saying it is from Redwood. I have no problem with them being on the forum. I don't want to be stuck up like some M/H people I have run into.
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Old 12-05-2013, 11:25 PM   #18
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Do you guys remember the few short months or even weeks when Elevation and Rushmore jumped on the old Redwood forum? It got real confusing real fast. The Rushmore guys had issues that they thought were common to all, but nobody could figure out what they are talking about and there was a lot of false advice going back and forth because nobody really knew what the other had.

The Montana Forum dealt with the Montana line, and went from Montana High Country lightweights and Mountaineer, all the way to the discontinued Cambridge. It wasn't always clear you were talking to a Mountaineer guy when he said Montana, and after a whole thread telling him how to flush the black tank just to find out the Mountaineer didn't have a flush, it could pretty much diminish the credibility of the information sometimes.

Sure it was good to be diverse, but could get annoying.

Alumni is always a different issue - it was always nice to hear from the alumni providing they didn't rub in the wonderfulness of their new Prevost and Mazariti Spyder toad every chance they got.

In my opinion Dave - I have no opinion. It's all a work around. But I'm still not sure why Buddy called me a filthy rag ....... just kidding
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:07 AM   #19
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I think that was more aimed at me, since my post is quoted, but I still stand by my post. You get to the point of where do you draw the line, do you let Pop-up owner in, Conversion Vans, Prevost owners, where?? The title is "Redwood Owners Forum". If you were a member of a BMW or Jag forum would you want folks talking about their Chevette, Pinto, or etc.? As I mentioned, checkout some of the generic forums, even they have sections for different rigs: Pop-up, TT, 5ers, TH, MH, truck campers, etc. Granted many of the appliances are generic but there are those issue that are very specific to Redwoods and even to the different models, which is why you should have you TV & RV info in your signature so we know what you have as our answer could be different based on model and in some cases year.
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:18 AM   #20
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My 2 cents - One of the most valuable features of this forum for me is that I can give and get advice specific to Redwoods. I've tried iRv2 and Rv Net only to get frustrated with the fact that there were sooo many different setups. I like a forum where I don't have to spend extra time searching or typing as a result. It's all about efficiency and a close knit community - something other general forums lack.
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